Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In > unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. > > /AL There is no such thing as the unknown. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In > unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. > > /AL ** Andy Warhol only allowed for 15 minutes of fame. But then he died before the internet happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In > > unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. > > > > /AL > > > > There is no such thing as the unknown. > > > toombaru ** Yes...how greedy. Like 'the known' has dried-up already, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In > > unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. > > > > /AL > > > > There is no such thing as the unknown. > > > toombaru I guess you are right. But only if the barrier between knowledge and the ideas of the unknown is broken. If we look at mind as an observer of information, we can see that there is in the mind that kind of information that is knowledge, and a flow on newness in the moment. That newness is a bombardment of new information and to the mind operating with knowledge, that bombardment _is_ the unknown. The constant attempt by the mind to keep up with this new information creates a stressful experience of time. Only by embracing fully the flow of new information can the unknown become the known. The ordinary person lives with knowledge vs the unknown, while a sage lives only with the known, for he or she has broken the illusionary barrier between the known and the unknown. This is only a theory I have. I don't know if it really is possible to break this barrier. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In > > > unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as the unknown. > > > > > > toombaru > > I guess you are right. But only if the barrier between knowledge and > the ideas of the unknown is broken. If we look at mind as an observer > of information, we can see that there is in the mind that kind of > information that is knowledge, and a flow on newness in the moment. > That newness is a bombardment of new information and to the mind > operating with knowledge, that bombardment _is_ the unknown. The > constant attempt by the mind to keep up with this new information > creates a stressful experience of time. Only by embracing fully the > flow of new information can the unknown become the known. The ordinary > person lives with knowledge vs the unknown, while a sage lives only > with the known, for he or she has broken the illusionary barrier > between the known and the unknown. This is only a theory I have. I > don't know if it really is possible to break this barrier. > > /AL The unknown does not exist....but then neither does the known. For some " thing " to be " known " ....it has to be conceptually separated from the infinite inter-connected flow....as does the " knower " Can you see where this is going? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Time is the transition zone between knowledge and the unknown. In > > > > unification between knowledge and the unknown, time is stressless. > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as the unknown. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > I guess you are right. But only if the barrier between knowledge and > > the ideas of the unknown is broken. If we look at mind as an observer > > of information, we can see that there is in the mind that kind of > > information that is knowledge, and a flow on newness in the moment. > > That newness is a bombardment of new information and to the mind > > operating with knowledge, that bombardment _is_ the unknown. The > > constant attempt by the mind to keep up with this new information > > creates a stressful experience of time. Only by embracing fully the > > flow of new information can the unknown become the known. The ordinary > > person lives with knowledge vs the unknown, while a sage lives only > > with the known, for he or she has broken the illusionary barrier > > between the known and the unknown. This is only a theory I have. I > > don't know if it really is possible to break this barrier. > > > > /AL > > > The unknown does not exist....but then neither does the known. > > > For some " thing " to be " known " ....it has to be conceptually separated from the infinite inter-connected flow....as does the " knower " > > > Can you see where this is going? > > toombaru Yes, you are absolutely right. Using nondual logic one can see that conflict is an illusion but an inevitable illusion if knowledge shall prevail, and it must, lest we will become like mindless vegetables. The barrier I am talking about is between mind's knowledge and the unknown. A good example of a mix between the known and the unknown is the future. The mind can predict the future in more or less detail, but can never, it seems, get an exact picture of what the future will be (if it could, then everybody could win the highest prize on lotto [every week if you are in Sweden]). Or at the casino; betting on the winning number on the roulette every time. In order to break this barrier a fusion between the known and the unknown must happen. To the thinking mind, this is annoying, for it operates solely on the level of knowledge, apart from a an insight of intuition now and then. Desire as the main ruler must go, and with that also fear goes. But's its a frightening road to take for the thinking mind, because it cannot even see this road other than as an idea. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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