Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hi G. Ok, you are leaving now, but where are you going to ? To your mom ? Or to a better place like Hawaii, or to a list with more reasonable members, or do you have a cosy rocking chair and you will listen to some good old flower power hippy songs ? To use Toonb's jargon, there is no you who could go anywhere, so this non-you has to stay where it is and can't move an yota Werner Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " > <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " > > <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " carolina112900 " > > > <freyjartist@a...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SMITH/ORACLE: Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? > > > > > > > > Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're > > fighting > > > > > > > > for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me > > what > > > it > > > > > > > > is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - > > > could > > > > > > > > it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of > perception. > > > > > > > > Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying > > > desperately > > > > > > > > to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. > And > > > all > > > > > > > > of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a > > human > > > > > > > > mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be > > able > > > to > > > > > > > > see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now! You can't win, > > > it's > > > > > > > > pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why, why do you > > > > > > > > persist? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NEO: Because I choose to. > > > > > > -carolina > > > ------------------------ > > > > > the big difference is --> Neo knew he was choosing to play a game. > > He knew exactly what it was about. He chose to play it and made no > > bones about what it was or what it was not. > > > > Whereas most of the people doing the non-dual trip don't believe > > their playing a game because they focus on the concept that it > isn't > > real. Yet they wake up each night from the dream and go through the > > motions of the game all the while insisting that it doesn't exist. > > > > This very act in itself perpetuates the very separated state which > > they insist doesn't exist and yet the dream and game continues and > > yes it's been going on for years, decades, centuries, millenia. > > Why? Because they choose it, yes, but they have chosen to take > the > > red pill...the one where they forget. > > > > It's fine if they want to stay in the state they are but the very > > nature of the denial pulls them back into this separate state which > > they continue to deny. > > > > The addiction to the separate state and the game of playing this > > particular type of thing is what appeals or they wouldn't be > > playing it. Beating the mind guerilla can be a very addictive > thing. > > Playing the mind games while denying there is even a game can be > > very addictive. It's also two doors down from insanity. > > > > Their truths have become their prison and they have become the > > slave. And the merry go round goes round, and round and round. > > Which is just fine. It can go on this way until they choose for it > > not to. > > > > Cany you understand why a perscription for prozac is standing at > the > > ready? > > > > No matter what the issue is they always give the same answer, " it > > doesn't exist " . > > > > Yet, > > they continue to wake up from the non-existent dream every morning > > and rapidly type away on the non-existent computer to discuss the > > non-existence of it all. > > > > This continues to cause the split/separation. Separation is only > a > > split and guess what...that's all insanity is too. One assurance > > is that humanity will not split/separate any more than they > already > > have. They can't or their human brain system (you know the one > > that's only illusion) will split/separate to such a degree that it > > will cause an actual zombie/lobotomy state. It is conceded that > > there is absolutely no useful purpose in that. > > > > No, Neo and non-dualist devotees are not the same. Neo is not the > > prisoner of his beliefs. > > > > ~G. > > ---------------- > > Or, then the non-dualist tripper will comment by taking a sentence > out of my message like this one: > > " Their truths have become their prison and they have become the > slave. " > > And respond by saying, " there is no They. " > > wow! That's so *non* profound I can't even begin to find words to > describe it. > > It's also the prison sentence that holds the *non* them hostage on > this wheel of the merry-go-round -- but rather than focusing on that > tidbit of freedom they will say, " there is no such thing as > freedom. " > > Eventually the prisoner realizes that it's very ideas are splitting > itself and causing the separation and chooses different ones. But > for now, they are forced to do the zombie jamboree and try to > convince themselves that there is no jamboree playing because *they* > don't really exist. > > How's that working for y'all anyways? > > It doesn't work for me so I guess I will say my good-byes and leave > you to your game/dream which doesn't exist and yet which you will > wake up to this morning and continue to play at. > > It's been interesting to say the least. > > ~G. > > ------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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