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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 "

<kenj02001>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > [........]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >>> BTW, what and `why' are you still `debating', Dan ?

> > > > >

> > > > > This is why, I asked you this question, Dan.

> > > > >

> > > > > About 3 messages ago in the same thread, I asked you

perhaps,

> > a

> > > > Very

> > > > > Simple question and then I even repeated it.

> > > > >

> > > > > You haven't answered it. Yet, you have been presenting your

> > ideas

> > > > > on ...assumes sense, inability of words ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Whereas, answer to the question might be pretty simple and

> > > > straight

> > > > > and might require No elaborate logic. Just little Courage

> > should

> > > > be

> > > > > enough.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you can NOT try to honestly and sincerely this question

in

> > > > > straight and simple terms, I ask ....Why, you are still

> > > > `debating',

> > > > > Dan. Here is the question again:

> > > > >

> > > > > ============

> > > > >

> > > > > It is quite easy, Dan!

> > > > > ....for anybody who can take courage to be HONEST, Sincere

> and

> > > > Open

> > > > > for a Moment.

> > > > >

> > > > > What any assuming, thinking requires ?

> > > > >

> > > > > What is ...ALWAYS ...Present ?

> > > > >

> > > > > What you can ...NEVER ...get rid of ?

> > > > >

> > > > > WHAT ...IS ...ALWAYS ?

> > > > >

> > > > > ===========

> > > > >

> > > > > [........]

> > > >

> > > > ** It's a set-up.

> > > >

> > > > Your so-called questions come from the

> > > > answers (you imagine) you have.

> > > >

> > > > It's a pointless exercise,

> > >

> > >

> > > Or, is the Above just a blank, Very COMMONN and Cowardice way

to

> > > respond to any question, ...that you do NOT want to answer ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Haven't we all heard this sort of remarks over and over again

> many

> > > politicians and ...other CHEATS, Dear Kenji ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Just a question, dear Kenji ...

> > >

> > > What you think ?

> >

> > I think you've moved from pontificating on the great I AM

> > to calling anyone who questions what you say a cheat,

> > a manipulator, or stupid.

> >

> > That is what politicians do, dear Arvind.

> >

> > And it is worth looking into.

> >

> > Your great I AM hasn't prevented you from the usual

> > defensive maneuvers of a mind that wants to be right

> > and doesn't want to be questioned.

>

> IS that YOU, ...Dear Dan?

>

> When was the LAST Time you Openly clearly in simple and straight

> words admitted to being wrong in any discussion.

 

Why are you concerned about Dan being right or wrong, Arvind?

 

Even if you were/are anchored in I AM, you would

know the nondifference of Arvind and Dan, and

would have no questions nor debate with or for Dan

by Arvind, nor any place to assign self as right

or wrong regardless of what another would say.

 

So, I wonder whether you even have the anchor you claim,

I AM ...

 

Let alone, to be clear here, where any I AMness drops.

 

There certainly is no such thing as being right about this.

 

Right or wrong simply don't pertain here.

 

Yet, apparently, being right or wrong pertains for Arvind

in his discussion with Dan.

 

Perhaps it would be good to contemplate this:

Arvind nor Dan are capable of being right or wrong,

except as context and subjectivity makes it appear

so to a particular observer.

 

And where observer and observed are not-two, there

can be no investment to be right, or to be wrong.

 

-- Dan

 

(nothing new below)

 

> If NO, Is Dan one of the ONLY One who is NEVER Wrong or Is He just

> like many others who doesn't honesty, truthfullness and COURAGE to

> admit being wrong in Clear, Open terms.

>

>

> BTW, ...I do USE Mind, dan ...

>

>

> What do you use ...?

>

> > I say this with all respect for you, for you've been

> > willing to expose your beliefs openly. So, the question

> > is: are you willing to go further, and question into

> > the assumptions involved in wanting to hold the beliefs?

> >

> > -- Dan

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