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Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 2/7/05 7:52:53 AM, dan330033 writes:

>

>

> > D: I'm simply inviting you to look at the one who

> >   >holds the belief and why, rather than repeating

> >   >the belief over and over.

> >

> > >Why the need to believe there is something you have

> >  > that is always present, some IS that never changes?

> >

> > >What do you get out of that?

> >

> > >Obviously, you get security, you get permanence.

> >

> > >So, you could, instead of repeatedly saying, " I AM " -

> >   >look into the insecurity that wants to hold onto

> >  > something permanent and absolute as a means to

> >   >have something to count on.

> >

> P: Yes, exactly! The two best questions to ask when

> inquiring into our belief system, are:

>

> 1) What I'm hoping to gain by holding on to this idea?

> 2) What are the consequences of believing this way?

>

> Sometimes, what we hope to gain and what we really get

> are not the same, often the result is the complete opposite

> of what we were hoping to get. Like hoping to survive could robs

> us of the chance to live fully now.

 

 

exactly.

 

and this kind of life is pathetic.

 

my feeling is, this surviving/patheticness goes deeper than we think.

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