Choice

[Guest guest]

What exactly do you mean by the word choice?

 

It seems to mean that thought can imagine two or more possible alternatives in

the projected future.

 

Thought evaluates them and appears to select one.

 

It is a process that functions by artifically dividing the world into parts,

most basically by dividing subject from object: the chooser from the chosen.

 

An apparent fork in the road appears, and there is the thought: " I am at a fork

in the road. I could go down Road A or Road B, "

 

Then further thoughts: " If I go this way, this might happen. If I go that way,

that might happen.

 

Then, Going-Down-Road A happens. And the thought, I am going down Road A. I

chose Road A. I could have gone down Road B. "

 

But the " I " separate from Road A is imaginary. It is a creation of thought.

Actually, " I " and " Road " A " are one event.

 

" Me going down Road B " exists only as an imaginary idea, a thought, occuring

now, as part of Going-Down-Road-A.

 

There is no such actuality outside that thought.

 

Going-Down-Road A is one whole event, undivided from the fork in the road, and

the road before that, indivisible from everything.

 

There was never a choice, only the appearance of one.

 

There was no one separate from what is to choose one direction or the other.

 

The decision, the choice, is only a way of conceptualizing and thinking about

what has occurred.

 

Nothing could actually be any different from how it is.

 

Past and future are in the mind.

 

Time itself is in the mind; it is a way of thinking; it has no actual reality.

 

Only this is.

 

 

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Who wrote this?

 

 

A. The Reverend Billy Graham

 

B. George Bush

 

C. Joan Tollifson

[Guest guest]

Obviously we are choosing all the time. But the misconception is, that

some people believe there was a " free will " behind those choices. It

is sooo very easy to disprove this funny idea! All those thoughts...

choices... are coming up without control of any " will " . Just watch it,

everybody!... for 30 seconds... if you have already had a strong

coffe, latest after 20 seconds there comes a choice. Maybe one like:

" I just have to open my eyes for a millisecond, to check if I have put

bread in the toaster " . Where was the free will before that? Did you

see it? There is none, believe me... Where would you locate it? The

choice comes up because the mind cannot see the " oneness " between " not

opening eyes/opening eyes " .

 

Another simple thought leads to the same conclusion: whenever you may

recognise " I make a choice " , the " making " of the choice has already

passed. You cannot undo this choice! You only can make another choice

instead, and with that choice it is the same etc..etc... . Look at

it now: this chain. If you ever really look, the idea of " free will "

will vanish forever. Believe me, there will be quite some relief and a

door might open (symbolicaly and dreamed)for some new thoughts, that

are still waiting to be thought in your grey cells. But your " free

will " will NOT bring them up. They come... when they come...

 

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who wrote this?

 

" S " on oct21, 2004 in a reply to Toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...>

wrote:

>

> Obviously we are choosing all the time. But the misconception is,

that

> some people believe there was a " free will " behind those choices.

It

> is sooo very easy to disprove this funny idea! All those

thoughts...

> choices... are coming up without control of any " will " .

 

Yeah, the idea of free will strikes me as absurd now. But I used to

believe it. Funny thing is, it doesn't matter either way. I still

make choices. Life still happens as it does.

 

Joe