Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " carolina112900 " <freyjartist@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 2/10/05 6:49:47 AM, lbb10@c... writes: > > > > > > > >These are long time > > > friends of more than 30 years who have no interest in nonduality > and on > > > >my suggestion alone " used " the positions as stated and they > learned on > > > their own in short order the speech and language displayed here, > albeit > > > in their tones and words, and they found it interesting and > pleasurable > > > >and useful. They also seem have to have no concern to discuss it > more > > > than that. They laugh at my list obsession that has taken me from > them. > > > >In any case, for them it seemed a simple exercise. They are no > different > > > after doing this in their general external behavior towards > things and > > > >others and they do seem less attached to ideas they held > previously, > > > they seem more fluid in their thinking when I press them on this > or that > > > >and say " Yeah, it is only an idea and it makes no difference in > what I > > > >do, just in how I think about it. " > > > > > P: LOL, Lewis. Has it occurred to you that your friends are just > humoring > > you? Could it be they know that the easiest way to get rid of this > lovable > > crackpot's obsession is to agree with him? > > > > It's strange that you believe that you of all people have > discovered a method > > to transform human minds in a week, when thousands opon thousands > of sages > > struggled for millennia to do the same and failed. Doesn't that > strike you > > as very odd? Should you not be very skeptical? > > > > > > Pete, are you sure they were struggling > to do anything? I don't know, but when talk turns > to sages, lately, I get this > picture of Chauncy Gardner (Peter Sellers) > in " Being There " , who was not trying to > do anything other than be what he was. > Granted, he was a little 'odd', or different > than most people. > He responded simply what came to him to say, > and everyone thought he was the enlightened > master! They thought it was very wise to > watch a lot of TV because that's what Chauncy > did and he said " I like to watch " which they > probably construed to be detachment. > They also thought that > when he spoke about sowing seeds in the spring, etc., > that it was symbolic of something very profound, > but he was just talking about gardening. > > ~freyja :-) Peter Sellers said, in an interview, that he believed that Chauncy was the closest that any character came to being who he really was. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " carolina112900 " <freyjartist@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 2/10/05 6:49:47 AM, lbb10@c... writes: > > > > > > > >These are long time > > > friends of more than 30 years who have no interest in nonduality > and on > > > >my suggestion alone " used " the positions as stated and they > learned on > > > their own in short order the speech and language displayed here, > albeit > > > in their tones and words, and they found it interesting and > pleasurable > > > >and useful. They also seem have to have no concern to discuss it > more > > > than that. They laugh at my list obsession that has taken me from > them. > > > >In any case, for them it seemed a simple exercise. They are no > different > > > after doing this in their general external behavior towards > things and > > > >others and they do seem less attached to ideas they held > previously, > > > they seem more fluid in their thinking when I press them on this > or that > > > >and say " Yeah, it is only an idea and it makes no difference in > what I > > > >do, just in how I think about it. " > > > > > P: LOL, Lewis. Has it occurred to you that your friends are just > humoring > > you? Could it be they know that the easiest way to get rid of this > lovable > > crackpot's obsession is to agree with him? > > > > It's strange that you believe that you of all people have > discovered a method > > to transform human minds in a week, when thousands opon thousands > of sages > > struggled for millennia to do the same and failed. Doesn't that > strike you > > as very odd? Should you not be very skeptical? > > > > > > Pete, are you sure they were struggling > to do anything? I don't know, but when talk turns > to sages, lately, I get this > picture of Chauncy Gardner (Peter Sellers) > in " Being There " , who was not trying to > do anything other than be what he was. > Granted, he was a little 'odd', or different > than most people. > He responded simply what came to him to say, > and everyone thought he was the enlightened > master! They thought it was very wise to > watch a lot of TV because that's what Chauncy > did and he said " I like to watch " which they > probably construed to be detachment. > They also thought that > when he spoke about sowing seeds in the spring, etc., > that it was symbolic of something very profound, > but he was just talking about gardening. > > ~freyja :-) Peter Sellers said, in an interview, that he believed that Chauncy was the closest that any character came to being who he really was. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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