Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Hi Everyone, I'm new to the group. Have been a devotee of Nisargadatta's teachings for some time. It's wonderful to see people sharing about this knowledge and these experiences. There was some talk of deep sleep yesterday. Here's a quote from the book (and perhaps someone has already addressed this, and I missed it) : " By elminating the intervals of inadvertence during the waking hours you will gradually eliminate the long interval of absent-mindedness, which you call sleep. You will be aware that you are asleep. " Of course, when " you are " asleep, you are asleep. And " you are " isn't " aware " of deep sleep. Yet " I Am " doesn't sleep. So, for me, when " I Am " comes a'calling during deep sleep, when " you are " becomes " I Am " during deep sleep, something kind of amazing happens ... Nisargadatta, above, vastly understates the level of awareness. Peace, Tom Des Moines, Iowa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: Sarah, you're in the wrong list, unless, you want to see that all those things you listed below are daydreams. If getting rid of all those fantasies is your aim, stay, and will help you see that. Pete > " meadancingrly " <meadancingrly > Hello! > > Hi Everyone!! Just wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name > is Sarah and I am a 21 year old college student. Some of my interests > include channeling, healing, inspired writing, dancing, painting, > performing arts, drawing, music, meditation, mind expansion, dream > interpretation, lucid dreaming, spirit guides, star people, awakening, > 2012, the earth's ascension, cosmic family, conciousness... the list > goes on and on and on. Basically anything spiritual or metaphysical > that will help me in my life journey attracts me. I am a star person, > an Elohim being to be exact and part of the Ashtar Command. I'm not > sure if there are many star people in this group or many people who > know of star people, but in case you haven't heard of us we are non > human entities, from other galaxies, to put it simply. There are all > different kinds of star people. As for the Ashtar Command and ELohim > beings, I usually refer people to this one webiste, who are not > familiar with the two, because the describe it a lot better than I > can. :-) The website is: http://ashtar.galactic2.net/ , for those > interested. I am still learning much about who I am, where I came > from, and my purpose here, as I think we all are. I do know however > that I am here in my final earth embodiment to help heal the earth and > aid it in its upcoming ascension. I am very much a lightworker, > healer, and an empath. I am working on developing my psychic > abilities currently and trying to gain a stronger connection with my > " helpers " on the other side (i.e. guides, angels, cosmic family, and > spiritual hierarchy), as well as learning more how to be my higher > self and impact society, as it is my mission to do so. I hope to get > to know all of you and build strong spiritual friendships so that we > can share insights and learn more about our unique qualities and > missions. > > Namaste, > > Sarah Jones > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Hi Sarah. Don't worry about Pete. He's just a Grinch that likes to steal people's spiritual fantasies. Or quash them. Or shoot them full of holes. Whatever suits his fancy at the moment. Then he'll try to sell you the Ultimate Fantasy of not having any fantasies! And then once he's sold you on *that* he'll turn the tables on you and say *That fantasy* is an illusion too (he's big on illusions being *very* problematic). So if you then say, " Now what? " he'll say, " Nothing. What do you mean What? What what? " going on in such a vein. That's why we call him Dead End Pete. Bill Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > Sarah, you're in the wrong list, unless, you want to see that > all those things you listed below are daydreams. If getting > rid of all those fantasies is your aim, stay, and will help you > see that. > > Pete > > > " meadancingrly " <meadancingrly> > > Hello! > > > > Hi Everyone!! Just wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name > > is Sarah and I am a 21 year old college student. Some of my interests > > include channeling, healing, inspired writing, dancing, painting, > > performing arts, drawing, music, meditation, mind expansion, dream > > interpretation, lucid dreaming, spirit guides, star people, awakening, > > 2012, the earth's ascension, cosmic family, conciousness... the list > > goes on and on and on. Basically anything spiritual or metaphysical > > that will help me in my life journey attracts me. I am a star person, > > an Elohim being to be exact and part of the Ashtar Command. I'm not > > sure if there are many star people in this group or many people who > > know of star people, but in case you haven't heard of us we are non > > human entities, from other galaxies, to put it simply. There are all > > different kinds of star people. As for the Ashtar Command and ELohim > > beings, I usually refer people to this one webiste, who are not > > familiar with the two, because the describe it a lot better than I > > can. :-) The website is: http://ashtar.galactic2.net/ , for those > > interested. I am still learning much about who I am, where I came > > from, and my purpose here, as I think we all are. I do know however > > that I am here in my final earth embodiment to help heal the earth and > > aid it in its upcoming ascension. I am very much a lightworker, > > healer, and an empath. I am working on developing my psychic > > abilities currently and trying to gain a stronger connection with my > > " helpers " on the other side (i.e. guides, angels, cosmic family, and > > spiritual hierarchy), as well as learning more how to be my higher > > self and impact society, as it is my mission to do so. I hope to get > > to know all of you and build strong spiritual friendships so that we > > can share insights and learn more about our unique qualities and > > missions. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Sarah Jones > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 And a warning, Sarah, Bill is known for his tactics to win the heart of young girls, especially of those with fancy spiritual ticks. Werner Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illieusion@h...> wrote: > > Hi Sarah. Don't worry about Pete. He's just a Grinch > that likes to steal people's spiritual fantasies. > Or quash them. Or shoot them full of holes. > Whatever suits his fancy at the moment. > > Then he'll try to sell you the Ultimate Fantasy > of not having any fantasies! > > And then once he's sold you on *that* he'll > turn the tables on you and say *That fantasy* > is an illusion too (he's big on illusions being > *very* problematic). > > So if you then say, " Now what? " he'll say, " Nothing. > What do you mean What? What what? " going on in such > a vein. > > That's why we call him Dead End Pete. > > > Bill > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > > > Sarah, you're in the wrong list, unless, you want to see that > > all those things you listed below are daydreams. If getting > > rid of all those fantasies is your aim, stay, and will help you > > see that. > > > > Pete > > > > > " meadancingrly " <meadancingrly> > > > Hello! > > > > > > Hi Everyone!! Just wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name > > > is Sarah and I am a 21 year old college student. Some of my interests > > > include channeling, healing, inspired writing, dancing, painting, > > > performing arts, drawing, music, meditation, mind expansion, dream > > > interpretation, lucid dreaming, spirit guides, star people, awakening, > > > 2012, the earth's ascension, cosmic family, conciousness... the list > > > goes on and on and on. Basically anything spiritual or metaphysical > > > that will help me in my life journey attracts me. I am a star person, > > > an Elohim being to be exact and part of the Ashtar Command. I'm not > > > sure if there are many star people in this group or many people who > > > know of star people, but in case you haven't heard of us we are non > > > human entities, from other galaxies, to put it simply. There are all > > > different kinds of star people. As for the Ashtar Command and ELohim > > > beings, I usually refer people to this one webiste, who are not > > > familiar with the two, because the describe it a lot better than I > > > can. :-) The website is: http://ashtar.galactic2.net/ , for those > > > interested. I am still learning much about who I am, where I came > > > from, and my purpose here, as I think we all are. I do know however > > > that I am here in my final earth embodiment to help heal the earth and > > > aid it in its upcoming ascension. I am very much a lightworker, > > > healer, and an empath. I am working on developing my psychic > > > abilities currently and trying to gain a stronger connection with my > > > " helpers " on the other side (i.e. guides, angels, cosmic family, and > > > spiritual hierarchy), as well as learning more how to be my higher > > > self and impact society, as it is my mission to do so. I hope to get > > > to know all of you and build strong spiritual friendships so that we > > > can share insights and learn more about our unique qualities and > > > missions. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Sarah Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Thanks Bill billrishel <illieusion wrote: Hi Sarah. Don't worry about Pete. He's just a Grinch that likes to steal people's spiritual fantasies. Or quash them. Or shoot them full of holes. Whatever suits his fancy at the moment. Then he'll try to sell you the Ultimate Fantasy of not having any fantasies! And then once he's sold you on *that* he'll turn the tables on you and say *That fantasy* is an illusion too (he's big on illusions being *very* problematic). So if you then say, " Now what? " he'll say, " Nothing. What do you mean What? What what? " going on in such a vein. That's why we call him Dead End Pete. Bill Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > Sarah, you're in the wrong list, unless, you want to see that > all those things you listed below are daydreams. If getting > rid of all those fantasies is your aim, stay, and will help you > see that. > > Pete > > > " meadancingrly " <meadancingrly> > > Hello! > > > > Hi Everyone!! Just wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name > > is Sarah and I am a 21 year old college student. Some of my interests > > include channeling, healing, inspired writing, dancing, painting, > > performing arts, drawing, music, meditation, mind expansion, dream > > interpretation, lucid dreaming, spirit guides, star people, awakening, > > 2012, the earth's ascension, cosmic family, conciousness... the list > > goes on and on and on. Basically anything spiritual or metaphysical > > that will help me in my life journey attracts me. I am a star person, > > an Elohim being to be exact and part of the Ashtar Command. I'm not > > sure if there are many star people in this group or many people who > > know of star people, but in case you haven't heard of us we are non > > human entities, from other galaxies, to put it simply. There are all > > different kinds of star people. As for the Ashtar Command and ELohim > > beings, I usually refer people to this one webiste, who are not > > familiar with the two, because the describe it a lot better than I > > can. :-) The website is: http://ashtar.galactic2.net/ , for those > > interested. I am still learning much about who I am, where I came > > from, and my purpose here, as I think we all are. I do know however > > that I am here in my final earth embodiment to help heal the earth and > > aid it in its upcoming ascension. I am very much a lightworker, > > healer, and an empath. I am working on developing my psychic > > abilities currently and trying to gain a stronger connection with my > > " helpers " on the other side (i.e. guides, angels, cosmic family, and > > spiritual hierarchy), as well as learning more how to be my higher > > self and impact society, as it is my mission to do so. I hope to get > > to know all of you and build strong spiritual friendships so that we > > can share insights and learn more about our unique qualities and > > missions. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Sarah Jones > > > > > > > ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 > Thanks Bill Well, Sarah, I take that as an encouraging sign that you aren't going to let the Ole Grinch scare you off! Do you know anything of Nisargadatta's teachings? Because the joking I was rolling off about Pete does come close, in my view, to the essence of the rather profound and ineffable teachings of Nisargadatta. In your intro you spoke of many mysteries that intrigue you. But would you trade them all for one inconceivably profound Mystery? Would you trade the many kinds of understandings that you mentioned for one inconceivably profound Understanding? Would you give it all away to realize a nakedness that leaves you breathless in the wind silent as the air soft as dew and trembling like a leaf in the shivering waking of a new dawn? Would you give it all away to find what was always yours but had long forgotten? Would you? Bill > > billrishel <illieusion@h...> wrote: Hi Sarah. Don't worry about Pete. He's just a Grinch > that likes to steal people's spiritual fantasies. > Or quash them. Or shoot them full of holes. > Whatever suits his fancy at the moment. > > Then he'll try to sell you the Ultimate Fantasy > of not having any fantasies! > > And then once he's sold you on *that* he'll > turn the tables on you and say *That fantasy* > is an illusion too (he's big on illusions being > *very* problematic). > > So if you then say, " Now what? " he'll say, " Nothing. > What do you mean What? What what? " going on in such > a vein. > > That's why we call him Dead End Pete. > > > Bill > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > > > Sarah, you're in the wrong list, unless, you want to see that > > all those things you listed below are daydreams. If getting > > rid of all those fantasies is your aim, stay, and will help you > > see that. > > > > Pete > > > > > " meadancingrly " <meadancingrly> > > > Hello! > > > > > > Hi Everyone!! Just wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name > > > is Sarah and I am a 21 year old college student. Some of my interests > > > include channeling, healing, inspired writing, dancing, painting, > > > performing arts, drawing, music, meditation, mind expansion, dream > > > interpretation, lucid dreaming, spirit guides, star people, awakening, > > > 2012, the earth's ascension, cosmic family, conciousness... the list > > > goes on and on and on. Basically anything spiritual or metaphysical > > > that will help me in my life journey attracts me. I am a star person, > > > an Elohim being to be exact and part of the Ashtar Command. I'm not > > > sure if there are many star people in this group or many people who > > > know of star people, but in case you haven't heard of us we are non > > > human entities, from other galaxies, to put it simply. There are all > > > different kinds of star people. As for the Ashtar Command and ELohim > > > beings, I usually refer people to this one webiste, who are not > > > familiar with the two, because the describe it a lot better than I > > > can. :-) The website is: http://ashtar.galactic2.net/ , for those > > > interested. I am still learning much about who I am, where I came > > > from, and my purpose here, as I think we all are. I do know however > > > that I am here in my final earth embodiment to help heal the earth and > > > aid it in its upcoming ascension. I am very much a lightworker, > > > healer, and an empath. I am working on developing my psychic > > > abilities currently and trying to gain a stronger connection with my > > > " helpers " on the other side (i.e. guides, angels, cosmic family, and > > > spiritual hierarchy), as well as learning more how to be my higher > > > self and impact society, as it is my mission to do so. I hope to get > > > to know all of you and build strong spiritual friendships so that we > > > can share insights and learn more about our unique qualities and > > > missions. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Sarah Jones > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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