Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Pete, More like an overwhelming fundamental insecurity and yes I've been there just recently. SNM says: " I live in a world of realities, while yours is of imaginings. Your world is personal, private, unshareable, intimately your own. Nobody can enter it, see as you see, hear as you hear, feel your emotions and think your thoughts. In your world you are truly alone, enclosed in your ever-changing dream, which you take for life. My world is an open world, common to all, accessible to all. In my world there is community, insight, love, real quality; the individual is the total, the totality - in the individual. All are on and One is all. " Seems there is a continuium of peronal to impersonal. Enlightenment is the end of the impersonal and paranoia near the end of the personal. There seems to be degrees of how much one is in the personal and how much in the objective. Paranoia (and perhaps other mental " disorders " ) seems an almost complete retreat to the personal. These help explain: " You create the world and then worry about it. " - SNM " You are not of the world. You are not even in the world. The world is not, you alone are. You create the world in your imagination like a dream. As you cannot separate the dream from yourself, so you cannot have an outer world independent of yourself. You are independent, not the world. Don't be afraid of a world you yourself have created. Cease from looking for happiness and reality in a dream and you will wake up. " - SNM Any worry, even to the extreme of the delusiona, is due to an error of identification. The more intense the identification the deeper the subjectivity of the experience. Shawn Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > A form of psychosis in which a person imagines that he is being persecuted or > that he is very great or important. > > P:I s this what you mean Shawn? > Do you have those symtons? > Don't we all have a mild form of paranoia? > If one feels we are one with the One? > Is that realization, or megalomania? > Is the constant questioning of reality. a form > of paranoic distrust? > Is not a certain amount of distrust, specially, > of our own opinions, healthy? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Hi Shawn, You used the word " identification " . What is that and who identifies, or who is the identifier ? Werner Nisargadatta , " Shawn " <shawnregan> wrote: > > Pete, > > More like an overwhelming fundamental insecurity and yes I've been > there just recently. SNM says: > > " I live in a world of realities, while yours is of imaginings. Your > world is personal, private, unshareable, intimately your own. Nobody > can enter it, see as you see, hear as you hear, feel your emotions and > think your thoughts. In your world you are truly alone, enclosed in > your ever-changing dream, which you take for life. My world is an open > world, common to all, accessible to all. In my world there is > community, insight, love, real quality; the individual is the total, > the totality - in the individual. All are on and One is all. " > > Seems there is a continuium of peronal to impersonal. Enlightenment is > the end of the impersonal and paranoia near the end of the personal. > There seems to be degrees of how much one is in the personal and how > much in the objective. Paranoia (and perhaps other mental " disorders " ) > seems an almost complete retreat to the personal. > > These help explain: > > " You create the world and then worry about it. " - SNM > > " You are not of the world. You are not even in the world. The world is > not, you alone are. You create the world in your imagination like a > dream. As you cannot separate the dream from yourself, so you cannot > have an outer world independent of yourself. You are independent, not > the world. Don't be afraid of a world you yourself have created. Cease > from looking for happiness and reality in a dream and you will wake > up. " - SNM > > Any worry, even to the extreme of the delusiona, is due to an error of > identification. The more intense the identification the deeper the > subjectivity of the experience. > > Shawn > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > A form of psychosis in which a person imagines that he is being > persecuted or > > that he is very great or important. > > > > P:I s this what you mean Shawn? > > Do you have those symtons? > > Don't we all have a mild form of paranoia? > > If one feels we are one with the One? > > Is that realization, or megalomania? > > Is the constant questioning of reality. a form > > of paranoic distrust? > > Is not a certain amount of distrust, specially, > > of our own opinions, healthy? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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