Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 <<> Sometimes is amusing to watch the > conceptual contortions Advaitins > perform to prove the universality > of awareness, like saying that > " Awareness is not aware of itself. " > If is not aware of itself, is not awareness. > Why insist in calling it awareness? They have > no other reason than to cater to those who > want to survive at any cost under any form. > > Pete>> Speaking of conceptual contortions, does thinking serve ANY " advaitic " purpose? I've encountered the sentence " Thinking leads you Godward " a few times and I wondered and still wonder: Does thinking take you godward or does it take you backward, in terms of gaining clarity or enlightenment or whatever anybody chooses to call it? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 In a message dated 2/18/05 9:27:04 AM, falkgw writes: > V: >Speaking of conceptual contortions, does thinking serve > ANY " advaitic " purpose? I've encountered the sentence " Thinking > >leads you Godward " a few times and I wondered and still wonder: Does > thinking take you godward or does it take you backward, in terms of > >gaining clarity or enlightenment or whatever anybody chooses to call > >.It? > P: Victor, if I remember correctly, the only way thinking helped me to free my 'self' from myself, was thinking about thinking. No doubt thinking is a great tool to solve practical problems, it's also a great tool to create imaginary ones. Unfortunately, our culture doesn't do a good job of teaching children how to think for themselves. Instead, it tries to makes us accept without questioning values which are contrary to mental freedom. So thinking about the limits of knowledge, and what do we really know when we believe we know, is a great liberating tool. A little bit of epistemology, and deconstruction goes a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Thanks again, Pete! Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/18/05 9:27:04 AM, falkgw@h... writes: > > > > V: >Speaking of conceptual contortions, does thinking serve > > ANY " advaitic " purpose? I've encountered the sentence " Thinking > > >leads you Godward " a few times and I wondered and still wonder: Does > > thinking take you godward or does it take you backward, in terms of > > >gaining clarity or enlightenment or whatever anybody chooses to call > > >.It? > > > P: Victor, if I remember correctly, the only way thinking helped me to > free my 'self' from myself, was thinking about thinking. No doubt > thinking is a great tool to solve practical problems, it's also a great > tool to create imaginary ones. Unfortunately, our culture doesn't do a good > job of teaching children how to think for themselves. Instead, it tries > to makes us accept without questioning values which are contrary > to mental freedom. > > So thinking about the limits of knowledge, and what do we really > know when we believe we know, is a great liberating tool. A little > bit of epistemology, and deconstruction goes a long way. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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