Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I'm gonna play Cyclops here and say to Mr. O: " You are so full of shit it is coming out of your ears. " Why so? Your reliance on dead " Masters " (even ones, like Krishna, who probably never existed in an historical sense)keeps you as ignorant as you allege Pete is. Give us a break with the " according to the Gita " bullshit. Why it says right here in 2nd. Peter, 3:17 " Unless Ye remove yourselves from the Teachings of the So-Called " Masters " , you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. " Now Our Lord was speaking to the Sadduces at the time, but as we all know, whatever is written in the Sacred Book applies to all people everywhere. Jesus also said, " Give me a fucking break, willya, with this mindless worship of Masters, lineages, schools of thought, and especially those godless Existentialists, even the " Christian " ones like Kirkegaard. Or else you're gonna get smited by Yahweh, and even I won't be able to help you at that point. " (The Gospel according to Mary Magdalene, p.103. 2nd. Edition, published by Faber & Faber, London, UK) Love, Garyananda Swami (Swami G) Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > >On the other hand, one who believes that memories and > consciousness > > >would survive death, has not had that experience, and is only > hoping > > >for emotional reasons. > > ********************************** > > Pete! Krishna in the Gita teaches that yes, after death, the person, > or consciousness leave the body and go elsewhere. e.g Heaven etc. > Reincarnation comes from Krishna teachings and the Vedas etc. So you > are saying that after physical death everything is finished! > Only the external is true. e.g the physical body not the Ego or > person. What are your coulors friend. You have none? and you are > going to die. And you are calm knowing there is nothing more than > false theories. You don't believe in faith, in nothing. It looks > like existentialism. > > Jean Paul Sartre: > > The existentialist...thinks it very distressing that God does not > exist, because all possibility of finding values in a heaven of > ideas disappears along with Him; there can no longer be a priori of > God, since there is no infinite and perfect consciousness to think > it. Nowhere is it written that the Good exists, that we must be > honest, that we must not lie; because the fact is that we are on a > plane where there are only men. Dostoyevsky said, If God didn't > exist, everything would be possible. That is the very starting point > of existentialism. Indeed, everything is permissible if God does not > exist, and as a result man is forlorn, because neither within him > nor without does he find anything to cling to. --Jean Paul Sartre > > Odysseus: > Spiritual Masters would never approve Existentialism. Even if you > call God the Self or the One etc. That doesn't mean that He doesn't > exist. Your life it self is the prof of his existence. Krishna says > that after physical death we go elsewhere. I say so too. The > consiousness cannot die. Because it never been born! Ramana Maharshi > says words like thoses. I say them too! Your investigation about the > human nature has not reached his peak yet and you, yourself, stopped > your own progress. But I know you don't care you already taken > position. Even if master Nis says that we shouldn't take a position > because we can be stuck with that particular position or belief. > Where are you friend? You hide form others and from yourself. > > Why do I tell you all this? Simply because you say things to others > that are not tuned with the Masters teachings. And your beliefs > seems to be the same as the others but you seem to say that you > don't believe in nothing. etc. Well for me you seem a lot. Well you > seem to much I would say. And of course I don't expect you to answer > any of the real questions asked form anyone because you would > reveals too much of your vulnerability etc. > > What can I add to this! Well that you are a good person preparing > him self to die honorably! Which is a good thing. > > Don't take this posting as an attack but as a healthy opposition to > your own created belief. You are much far away form the Masters > teachings, so I wonder, Where are you? > > Love > Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > I'm gonna play Cyclops here and say to Mr. O: " You are so full of > shit it is coming out of your ears. " > Odysseus: Nice picture here.:0) > Why so? > > Your reliance on dead " Masters " Odysseus: Dead Masters hein? How do you know they are dead? Because their body left this world? Oh I'm sure Master Nis ans Ramana were their bodies! Did Ramana said that his was going to die or did he said that he was one day going to leave his body? I know most of the great masters say that they are going to leave their body!!! I think you over looked the masters teachings. If you are interrested on them of course! It is written on top, this posting subjet; Krishna my Ass!?! That is your respect for Krishna or the Masters? ha ha. Who is full of shit? You give yourself the tittle Swami??? And you spit on Krishna!! ha ha! Ironic ... No? (even ones, like Krishna, who > probably never existed in an historical sense) Odysseus: If you have followed a bit what's going on here for a time you would have understand that some maintain the belief that you... Gary yourself, now here... do not exist that you are just a mirage without life that you are already dead etc. and you are no more important than vomit! So, when you say that Krishna didn't truly exist... I tell you what is the difference, between you and Krishna if for them you don't even exist! both of you!!! You are the fruit of my imagination. (this is Bullshit!!) And the worse part is that you who does not exist. Will at your death not exist anymore... you will die!! ha ha! What does not exist cannot die!!!!!!! keeps you as ignorant Odysseus: Do you know what is to be ignorant. I know! > as you allege Pete is. Odysseus: Do you really think Pete needs to be defended? He isn't big enough to take care of himself? ha ha! > > Give us a break with the " according to the Gita " bullshit. > Odysseus: I see clearly now that you don't give a damn about the Gita. Ramana often took words from the gita to express his understanding. But of course you surely don't give a damn about Ramana too? Fucken Spiritual anarchy hein. Kill the masters and rule!!! > Why it says right here in 2nd. Peter, 3:17 " Unless Ye remove > yourselves from the Teachings of the So-Called " Masters " , you cannot > enter the Kingdom of Heaven. " > Odysseus: You have no idea what the kingdom of heaven is. You spit on the Gita and now use the bible! Are you telling me that you believe in the bible? ha ha! > Now Our Lord was speaking to the Sadduces at the time, but as we all know, whatever is written in the Sacred Book applies to all people everywhere. Odysseus: Sacred book? :0 Something is sacred for you? Our Lord? Do you believe in Jesus? > > Jesus also said, " Give me a fucking break, willya, with this mindless worship of Masters, lineages, schools of thought, and especially those godless Existentialists, even the " Christian " ones like Kirkegaard. Or else you're gonna get smited by Yahweh, and even I won't be able to help you at that point. " (The Gospel according to Mary Magdalene, p.103. 2nd. Edition, published by Faber & Faber, > London, UK) > > Love, > > Garyananda Swami (Swami G) Odysseus: Was Jesus a swami? why not. We decide ... don't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 " <ilikezen2004> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > wrote: > > > > I'm gonna play Cyclops here and say to Mr. O: " You are so full of > > shit it is coming out of your ears. " ************************************************** Odysseus: Yes you are right it is coming out of my ears. But it is not what you think. Love Odysseus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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