Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Dear O or Mr. A, Yesterday, I had said that I would get back to you regarding several good points that I thought you raised in one of your previous posts but that was all so......yesterday. In any event, anything that I could have possibly said, is MORE than covered by Pete's remarks to you below. It's not a matter of who's " right " or who's " wrong " of course, but the fact is, you don't really seem to get where The Nis (vs. The Nazz) and those who resonate with his " teachings " (if that's the proper word) are coming from. And I say, " never the twain shall meet " , just as long as you cling to a belief system of ANY kind, whether Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or Wiccan, or whatever. It all boils down to the question, " do you want to be Good or do you want to be God? " Oh, and speaking of The Nazz: Let those who have ears, hear. All love, Swami G Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/24/05 8:10:59 AM, ilikezen2004 writes: > > > > >Pete! Krishna in the Gita teaches that yes, after death, the person, > > or consciousness leave the body and go elsewhere. e.g Heaven etc. > > >Alb:Reincarnation comes from Krishna teachings and the Vedas etc. So you > > are saying that after physical death everything is finished! > > Only the external is true. e.g the physical body not the Ego or > > >person. What are your coulors friend. You have none? and you are > > going to die. And you are calm knowing there is nothing more than > > false theories. You don't believe in faith, in nothing. It looks > > >like existentialism. > > > Hi Alberto, > > P: It's OK for you to believe what you believe now. You, will outgrow > those beliefs one day, and get others, and even one day, maybe need > none, as some here do. It's for those who have no need for any > assurances of survival, and for those who are ready to drop all > such hopes that I write. I understand that what I write makes believers > very uneasy, like watching someone walk on a high wire without a net. > > What I write may seem like existentialism to you, but not to me. I don't > say there is no God. I say, any idea, any experience anyone might have > about God, is not God. There is no direct or indirect knowledge of God, > everything you can read about God in holy books are poetic stories about > other people's experiences. It's like reading a menu, it could never fill you > up. They are alright for beginners, but ideas about God must eventually > be left behind. > > Before Alberto was conceived there was no knowledge of Alberto anywhere. > Out of that complete not knowing, perception appeared, and after a few months > those perceptions began to call themselves Alberto, and the knowledge of an > Alberto grew with each passing month and years until, today, those memories > color every new perception with an identity. That identity born out of > memories > will not survive after death in any way, but as long as bodies with brains > are born there will be perceptions and a sense of self. I don't even need > that > small consolation. I'm with Nis all the way. He called consciousness the > disease, > and the cause of all suffering. The absolute, he said, is beyond even that. > > > > > > > > ALB: > What can I add to this! Well, that you are a good person preparing > > him self to die honorably! Which is a good thing. > > > P: LOL, Alberto, honor? Honor-great respect, high public regard. I don't > care > for that in life, much less in death. What good will that do? If I could > be granted a wish about my death it would be that it won't cause > any suffering for those I love, and that they will quickly adjust to live > on without me. The name Nagarjuna is greatly honored, but does that > benefit a person called Nagarjuna? Of course not, the person is gone, > and only thoughts committed to paper survive. > > Best to you, > Pete > > > > > > Don't take this posting as an attack but as a healthy opposition to > > your own created belief. You are much far away form the Masters > > teachings, so I wonder, Where are you? > > > > Love > > Odysseus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > Dear O or Mr. A, > > Yesterday, I had said that I would get back to you regarding several good points that I thought you raised in one of your previous posts but that was all so......yesterday. > > In any event, anything that I could have possibly said, is MORE than covered by Pete's remarks to you below. > > It's not a matter of who's " right " or who's " wrong " of course, Odysseus: But why do you bitch so much then?? You don't respect nothing or what? I won't beat a guy who says he likes the colors blue? The is no right or worng here? Only colors! What is your position? What are yours belief if you have some? It is OK for me if you have none. Then speak openly about them. Don't bitch Krishna and the Gita and call your self a swami! but > the fact is, you don't really seem to get where The Nis (vs. The > Nazz) and those who resonate with his " teachings " (if that's the > proper word) are coming from. Odysseus: Resonate? So we need to resonate with a particular teaching now? You speack against Krishna; not resonating with him and yet you want to resonate the Swami style of life or something and you want to resonate with Nis teachings? What is the difference between Krishna and Nis?? Oh I see you prefer Nis. Oh Ok! I will try to resonate Nis more for you to give me more respect and consider me as a God, just beside you being a God too! Isn't that you suggest here below? Good or God. > And I say, " never the twain shall meet " , just as long as you cling to a belief system of ANY kind, whether Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or Wiccan, or whatever. Odysseus: ha ha! But you want to resonate to the great Nis, with a couple of your friends here! What is the difference to believe in Jesus or to believe in Nis or Ramana or Buddha, or Krishna if all they teach is non-dualism? > It all boils down to the question, " do you want to be Good or do you want to be God? " Odysseus: I don't want to be good or to become God. I have cease to become. > > Oh, and speaking of The Nazz: Let those who have ears, hear. Odysseus: Jesus said that often. But if you say it I think it means that you spit on Jesus face too? You like the fruits of the tree but not the tree it self!! > All love, > > Swami G Well I just red that you met Nis in person! Have you killed the buddha or you just had a nice party eating vegetables? From what I read from you... you just have a hot temper!! :0) Which is Ok for me! I will try to copy as much as I can Nis words. So you guys can be friends of mine. And we will conquer this bord and be Gods and Goddesses above the ants! Yes I want this! yes I want to be love! and respected, yes I don't want to diiiiieeeee!!!! Love Odysseus, ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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