Just found this dialogue with Nis and decided to share.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider "

<laughterx8@h...> wrote:

>

>

> Seeker:

> If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is the

> way out?

>

> Nis:

> There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is

also

> part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as

dream.

>

> Seeker:

> If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream,

where

> will it lead me?

>

> Nis:

> Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of

going

> beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that

you

> are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways

> out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like

> one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the

dream

> as a dream, you have done all that needs be done.

>

> ---

> He agrees with me so he must me right. lol.

> ~G

 

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your comment is delicious, ;0)

 

 

Odysseus,

[Guest guest]

> > Seeker:

> > If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is

the

> > way out?

> >

> > Nis:

> > There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is

> also

> > part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as

> dream.

> >

> > Seeker:

> > If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream,

> where

> > will it lead me?

> >

> > Nis:

> > Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of

> going

> > beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that

> you

> > are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for

ways

> > out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you

like

> > one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the

> dream

> > as a dream, you have done all that needs be done.

> >

> > ---

> > He agrees with me so he must me right. lol.

> > ~G

>

> ******************

>

> your comment is delicious, ;0)

>

>

> Odysseus,

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I once heard the most wonderful saying:

 

" God is the ultimate stand up comedian playing to an audience who

never ever laughs. "

 

As a matter of fact, I have a Boffo cartoon where the characature of

the man named Boffo is meeting Peter at the golen gates and Peter

says to boffo, " it was a joke get it? " The next frame shows Boffo

glaring at the reader with a very unamused and p.o.'d look on his

face.

 

O.K. Ody, I know what will give the messages more impact (for

Gary's taste seeing as he finds them a little bland or weak) --- we

just have to swear more!! lol. Throw in some solid swears and it's

bound to get the point across with great intensity. Failing that,

just have a good old fashioned emotional tantrum and then tell

everyone else they lack panache and punch! <that was meant as

humor> )

I'm not good with words so I must fail the panache test horribly. I

didn't start speaking much until I was quite old. (now ya can't

shut me up lol) Of course I'm reminded of Freyja's very derogatory

comments about me last year so I think I'd be better off just

keeping my big mouth shut.

 

 

In light of all the diversity in topic discussions the old parable

of the 5 blind men and the elephant have come to mind recently. You

know the one where each blind man has to describe the elephant? One

checks out the tail and says the elephant is a long tube like

structure. The other checks the ears and says it's big flappy piece

of skin, and so on and so on. Everyone experiences it

differently. There all correct in a sense.

 

~*~ G