Bitching To Enlightenment

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Nisargadatta , " ilikezen2004 "

<ilikezen2004> wrote:

>

> Odysseus: What is your

> position? What are yours belief if you have some? It is OK for me

if

> you have none. Then speak openly about them. Don't bitch Krishna

and

> the Gita and call your self a swami! >>

>

 

Dear Brother O,

 

If I bitch too much, I apologize. It is not my intention to bitch any

of the great names in spiritual tradition, whether Krishna, Rama,

Chaitanya or Buddha. The Niz and the Nazz included

 

What I meant to convey, however ineptly, was that, like good Zen

Buddhists, we shouldn't rely on the scriptures, the rituals, the

accepted beliefs, etc. of ANY religious tradition IF we want to go

beyond name and form (nama rupa).

 

That's really all I'm getting at. As stated before, I love the Gita,

I love Jesus, I love Ramakrishna and of course the Niz as well, among

others.

 

My position is simply this: I Am That. (That's it. The whole extent

of my " religion " .)

 

As for my spiritual credentials, I am an accredited swami. I

graduated in 1995 (with honors)from Spiritual University's Continuing

Ed Program (Online Division)with a BS degree (Batchelor of Swaminess).

 

 

<<>> Odysseus: I will try

> to resonate Nis more for you to give me more respect and consider

me

> as a God, just beside you being a God too! Isn't that you suggest

> here below? Good or God. >>

 

Well what I meant by that statement was this: A person can either

follow the rules and regulations of his/her religion wiht the hope of

being rewarded in the after-life (that's what I meant by

being " good " ) or they can take to heart Ramakrishna's (and others')

admonition to " realize God in THIS lifetime " (that's what I meant by

becoming " God " ).

 

 

 

 

<<>> Odysseus: ha ha! But you want to resonate to the great Nis, with

a

> couple of your friends here! What is the difference to believe in

> Jesus or to believe in Nis or Ramana or Buddha, or Krishna if all

> they teach is non-dualism? >>

 

Good point! I agree, it doesn't really matter who you believe in.

What does matter is that you " arrive " at true Understanding. Krishna

in the Gita says something like " the fire of understanding reduces

all action to ashes. "

 

<> Well I just red that you met Nis in person!>>

 

No, never did. I did meet Ramesh and Wayne Liquorman, though, and

was duly impressed by both.

 

In any event, I will stop bitching about the Masters and settle back

into pure, nondual awareness and enjoy the passing show.

 

Love,

 

Garyananda