Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Went out for a walk in the fog. Things were indistinct, yet spoke clearly. Plants were intimate, but wet. They dripped with affection on the dirt. The soil remained un- moved, but receptive. And, in such discreet company, I walked along feeling eternal, yet nonexistent. What can I say! Things are, and they are not. And this gives them the pungent odor of Eternity. What is disappears like a skunk in the fog, but the feeling of eternity lingers like its persistent smell. Pete Ps. it's right in front of your nose, but don't try to grab it. Just inhale gently, and let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 In a message dated 3/8/05 3:27:45 PM, anders_lindman writes: > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > Went out for a walk in the fog. > > Things were indistinct, yet spoke > > clearly. Plants were intimate, but > > wet. They dripped with affection > > on the dirt. The soil remained un- > > moved, but receptive. And, in such > > discreet company, I walked along > > feeling eternal, yet nonexistent. > > > > What can I say! Things are, and they > > are not. And this gives them the > > pungent odor of Eternity. What is > > disappears like a skunk in the fog, > > but the feeling of eternity lingers > > like its persistent smell. > > > > Pete > > > > Ps. it's right in front of your nose, > > but don't try to grab it. Just > > inhale gently, and let it go. > > > > > > > > Yes, inhale. And also listen. When I try to listen to noise around me > most of my nerves in my body grates. I believe it was you who wrote > about being able to listen to noise, for example neighbours playing > music loud, noisy traffic and people shouting, babies crying e t c and > enjoy it. That would be a miracle! > > It feels that the sense of hearing is very strongly and deeply > connected to the whole nervous system in the body (and in the mind). > When that system is in harmony that would be a big step towards peace > I guess. Nonetheless, it is a good practice I think to observe the > feeling of listening. > > /AL > P: Yes, listening with undivided atttention has been bely, bely good to " me. " But seeing in the same way, or feeling, is just as good. Paying atention is the best guru anyone could have. And that is the main benefit of visiting a guru, his/her presence compels attention, if it doesn't, then, that one is uselesss to you. is compelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > Went out for a walk in the fog. > Things were indistinct, yet spoke > clearly. Plants were intimate, but > wet. They dripped with affection > on the dirt. The soil remained un- > moved, but receptive. And, in such > discreet company, I walked along > feeling eternal, yet nonexistent. > > What can I say! Things are, and they > are not. And this gives them the > pungent odor of Eternity. What is > disappears like a skunk in the fog, > but the feeling of eternity lingers > like its persistent smell. > > Pete > > Ps. it's right in front of your nose, > but don't try to grab it. Just > inhale gently, and let it go. > > > Yes, inhale. And also listen. When I try to listen to noise around me most of my nerves in my body grates. I believe it was you who wrote about being able to listen to noise, for example neighbours playing music loud, noisy traffic and people shouting, babies crying e t c and enjoy it. That would be a miracle! It feels that the sense of hearing is very strongly and deeply connected to the whole nervous system in the body (and in the mind). When that system is in harmony that would be a big step towards peace I guess. Nonetheless, it is a good practice I think to observe the feeling of listening. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 3/8/05 3:27:45 PM, anders_lindman writes: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > Went out for a walk in the fog. > > > Things were indistinct, yet spoke > > > clearly. Plants were intimate, but > > > wet. They dripped with affection > > > on the dirt. The soil remained un- > > > moved, but receptive. And, in such > > > discreet company, I walked along > > > feeling eternal, yet nonexistent. > > > > > > What can I say! Things are, and they > > > are not. And this gives them the > > > pungent odor of Eternity. What is > > > disappears like a skunk in the fog, > > > but the feeling of eternity lingers > > > like its persistent smell. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > Ps.�� it's right in�� front of your nose, > > >� � � � � but don't try to grab it. Just > > >� � � �� inhale gently, and�� let it go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, inhale. And also listen. When I try to listen to noise around me > > most of my nerves in my body grates. I believe it was you who wrote > > about being able to listen to noise, for example neighbours playing > > music loud, noisy traffic and people shouting, babies crying e t c and > > enjoy it. That would be a miracle! > > > > It feels that the sense of hearing is very strongly and deeply > > connected to the whole nervous system in the body (and in the mind). > > When that system is in harmony that would be a big step towards peace > > I guess. Nonetheless, it is a good practice I think to observe the > > feeling of listening. > > > > /AL > > > > P: Yes, listening with undivided atttention has been bely, bely > good to " me. " But seeing in the same way, or feeling, is just > as good. Paying atention is the best guru anyone could have. > And that is the main benefit of visiting a guru, his/her > presence compels attention, if it doesn't, then, that one > > is uselesss to you. > is compelled > > As a practice I will continue try to listen and feel the listening, and the seeing, the smelling, thinking e t c as a continuous all-seeing eye method. Often I fall into a state of being lost in thoughts and emotions about my life drama, but equally often I also snap out of that dim state and can observe what is going on from a higher perspective. When I am in a state of noticing what is going on inside and outside me there is an acute sensation of the emotional and even physical pain in me. For this practice no outer guru is needed although I agree that some gurus have a presence that is alert and connected, and that one can sense this by directly experiencing them. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 In a message dated 3/9/05 2:24:24 AM, anders_lindman writes: > AL: As a practice I will continue try to listen and feel the listening, > and the seeing, the smelling, thinking e t c as a continuous > all-seeing eye method. > P: Good! I'm glad to read that. > Al: Often I fall into a state of being lost in > thoughts and emotions about my life drama, but equally often I also > snap out of that dim state and can observe what is going on from a > higher perspective. When I am in a state of noticing what is going on > inside and outside me there is an acute sensation of the emotional and > even physical pain in me. > P: And then, when seeing that, what's next? Do you stay with the pain simply out of curiosity? O you try to find a cure for it? or is there a movement to escape? Is there really a separation between a sense of you and the pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 3/9/05 2:24:24 AM, anders_lindman writes: > > > > AL: As a practice I will continue try to listen and feel the listening, > > and the seeing, the smelling, thinking e t c as a continuous > > all-seeing eye method. > > > P: Good! I'm glad to read that. > > > Al: Often I fall into a state of being lost in > > thoughts and emotions about my life drama, The " you " is nothing more that those very thoughts and emotions........It cannot transcend its self. but equally often I also > > snap out of that dim state and can observe what is going on from a > > higher perspective. When I am in a state of noticing what is going on > > inside and outside me there is an acute sensation of the emotional and > > even physical pain in me. " It " does not have layers. Its inside is its outside. toombaru > > > P: And then, when seeing that, what's next? Do you stay with the pain > simply out of curiosity? O you try to find a cure for it? or is there a > movement to escape? Is there really a separation between a sense of you and > the pain? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 3/9/05 2:24:24 AM, anders_lindman writes: > > > > AL: As a practice I will continue try to listen and feel the listening, > > and the seeing, the smelling, thinking e t c as a continuous > > all-seeing eye method. > > > P: Good! I'm glad to read that. > > > Al: Often I fall into a state of being lost in > > thoughts and emotions about my life drama, but equally often I also > > snap out of that dim state and can observe what is going on from a > > higher perspective. When I am in a state of noticing what is going on > > inside and outside me there is an acute sensation of the emotional and > > even physical pain in me. > > > P: And then, when seeing that, what's next? Do you stay with the pain > simply out of curiosity? O you try to find a cure for it? or is there a > movement to escape? Is there really a separation between a sense of you and > the pain? > When I become aware of the pain in me there little chance of escape from it. My mind can then not easily fall back into its thinking patterns which often are a form of escaping feeling fully. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/9/05 2:24:24 AM, anders_lindman writes: > > > > > > > AL: As a practice I will continue try to listen and feel the listening, > > > and the seeing, the smelling, thinking e t c as a continuous > > > all-seeing eye method. > > > > > P: Good! I'm glad to read that. > > > > > Al: Often I fall into a state of being lost in > > > thoughts and emotions about my life drama, > > > > The " you " is nothing more that those very thoughts and emotions........It cannot transcend > its self. > > but equally often I also > > > snap out of that dim state and can observe what is going on from a > > > higher perspective. > > When I am in a state of noticing what is going on > > > inside and outside me there is an acute sensation of the emotional and > > > even physical pain in me. > > > > " It " does not have layers. > > Its inside is its outside. > > > toombaru > " ...you divide the world between me and them because your mind is divided... " -- Vernon Howard /AL > > > > > > > > > > P: And then, when seeing that, what's next? Do you stay with the pain > > simply out of curiosity? O you try to find a cure for it? or is there a > > movement to escape? Is there really a separation between a sense of you and > > the pain? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/9/05 2:24:24 AM, anders_lindman writes: > > > > > > > AL: As a practice I will continue try to listen and feel the > listening, > > > and the seeing, the smelling, thinking e t c as a continuous > > > all-seeing eye method. > > > > > P: Good! I'm glad to read that. > > > > > Al: Often I fall into a state of being lost in > > > thoughts and emotions about my life drama, but equally often I also > > > snap out of that dim state and can observe what is going on from a > > > higher perspective. When I am in a state of noticing what is going on > > > inside and outside me there is an acute sensation of the emotional and > > > even physical pain in me. > > > > > P: And then, when seeing that, what's next? Do you stay with > the pain > > simply out of curiosity? O you try to find a cure for it? or is there a > > movement to escape? Is there really a separation between a sense of > you and > > the pain? > > > > When I become aware of the pain in me there little chance of escape > from it. " You " are the pain. t. My mind can then not easily fall back into its thinking > patterns which often are a form of escaping feeling fully. > > /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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