Immortality / Werner

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

 

>I don't give a damn hood for if awareness will go on lasting for

ever or not because when I died and it will last then ok ok, and if

it won't last then ok too. But I am still alive and as long as I

believe in an eternal awareness then this very belief will undermine

enquiry because this enquiry could lead to the ending of the " me "

which is thinking that it is awareness. Can't you see that point ? Who

>else besides the " me " is interested in eternal survival ?

 

Werner, in a way you just have said that you do not want to believe in

immortality because you want to be immortal. Do you see that? You just

indicated that you want your mortal part, your " me " to end. You want

your inquiry to succeed, not to be undermined. You are trying to trick

yourself. But it does not work. Thats why you are frustratedly

shouting on others that they are stupidly ruled by immortality

wishes.

 

Why do you want your personal " me " to end at all, what is

wrong with it. What do you expect to be left when ended. Who wants to

end what. Whose enquiry is in danger to be undermined.

 

I would like write down for you three points based on my own

experience.

 

1.The idea that the " me " is ultimately interested in survival is a

myth. There is plenty of evidence that the " me " can be suicidal and

self destructive or simply wants to forget itself and cease.

 

2.When I allow awareness to be as it is I am just allowing what is

already in place. I am already experiencing the totality every moment.

It does not need my allowance.

 

3.This awareness, this experiencing is ultimately impersonal. This

also means immortal. But not the immortality of the person. It just

means that my total experiencing is so vast that the conceptual person

is only a tiny, unimportant, transitory part of it.

 

If you like, please read those three points again, but read them

without thinking every word has an underlying hidden meaning. Just

take what is in there for you and I am out of here.

 

Greetings

Stefan