Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 1. The final understanding is you have understood enough, so cease from your accumulation of knowledge and BE. Says Nis: " Any image you have of yourself is not true. True knowledge is to abide in your own Self. " 2. " The goal is to realize the Self. " Goal might not be the best word. I don't see realizing the Self as positing a separation. It is realizing what has always been yet was overlooked due to conceptualizations. Nothing gained afresh. 3. Who is the dropper of the me and what is the dropped me? How many MEs are there? There are 17 MEs! (and my Granddaughter thinks I'm not funny). Werner, you made me think but I like you anyhow. Must go into the oft-used analogy. Today I walked by the Atlantic Ocean. If this vastness of water thinks it is the temporal waves which form and recede, it would create false limitations upon itself. Not to mention fears of change and impermanence. Only one ME which drops its identifying with limited, impermanent waves. And beyond/prior to the Ocean is the clear sky which is attributeless, formless, subject without object. 4. Have experienced many states and non-states for varying amounts of time. But where are these experiences now? May all BEING be happy, Richard Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Very beautiful posting, Michael! Thanks for being with us. My comment to #4: tomorrow will look different than today. And today will look different tomorrow. And some things will remain the same. Om shanti... Stefan Nisargadatta , Richard <richarkar> wrote: > 1. The final understanding is you have understood enough, so cease from your accumulation of knowledge and BE. Says Nis: " Any image you have of yourself is not true. True knowledge is to abide in your own Self. " > > 2. " The goal is to realize the Self. " Goal might not be the best word. I don't see realizing the Self as positing a separation. It is realizing what has always been yet was overlooked due to conceptualizations. Nothing gained afresh. > > 3. Who is the dropper of the me and what is the dropped me? How many MEs are there? There are 17 MEs! (and my Granddaughter thinks I'm not funny). Werner, you made me think but I like you anyhow. Must go into the oft-used analogy. Today I walked by the Atlantic Ocean. If this vastness of water thinks it is the temporal waves which form and recede, it would create false limitations upon itself. Not to mention fears of change and impermanence. Only one ME which drops its identifying with limited, impermanent waves. And beyond/prior to the Ocean is the clear sky which is attributeless, formless, subject without object. > > 4. Have experienced many states and non-states for varying amounts of time. But where are these experiences now? > > May all BEING be happy, > Richard > > > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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