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Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > http://www.awakeningtothedream.com/zoom/index.html Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > http://www.awakeningtothedream.com/zoom/index.html ********* " Detachment " is not the understanding that the sages are talking about. The difference between a balloon getting bigger and bigger and the bursting of the balloon altogether. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 ********* " Detachment " is not the understanding that the sages are talking about. The difference between a balloon getting bigger and bigger and the bursting of the balloon altogether. *********** Sudden awakening: detaching from the nonsensical notion that there is a balloon or ever was one. Gradual awakening: Dragging a fantasy balloon around cultivating notions about balloons and what should be done about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Faithe Arden " <faithe@v...> wrote: > > " Detachment " is not the understanding that the sages are talking > about. The difference between a balloon getting bigger and bigger > and the bursting of the balloon altogether. > > *********** > > Sudden awakening: detaching from the nonsensical notion > that there is a balloon or ever was one. > > Gradual awakening: Dragging a fantasy balloon around cultivating > notions about balloons and what should be done about them > > ********************* > > Faithe: This message did not have the same impact on me, Joyce. > > What I understood is that there is a tendency to " gulp " up everything expressed by the sages. The more that one gulps, the more one " knows " and becomes " full of oneself " , with all this knowledge. > > The " attachment " is to that which has been learned and is now labeled as understanding and knowledge. The more reading and understanding of the words emitted by the sages infers that one actually believes that " more knowledge " leads to detachment; the message is hinting that the reverse is true. > > It is when the balloon (self) bursts and all this " knowledge " dissipates, that detachment " is " . Can attachment and detachment reside concurrently? > > The attachment, itself, is the hanging on to the words of the sages, and calling it " knowledge " , and seeking more and more words to understand, which ultimately increases the attachment. > > After reading the message, I was left with the question, does no attachment infer detachment? Is " detachment " preferable to " attachment " ? If so, why? In the end, does it boil down to having an attachment to detachment? > > That is my take on this " interesting perspective " offered. > Hi Faithe~ Always interested to hear your take here's another one for the mix... there can be detachment with no attachment as well as attachment to detachment, (more like detach-ING, attach-ING) and everything from A to Z in between, as passing phenomenon, but there are no 'qualities' such as detachment or attachment that can be possessed (had or owned). IOW, there is constant flux (change) but nothing that can have or possess qualities of permanence or impermanence. To suggest a constant state of attachment, detachment, permanence or impermanence is to infer that there is something that could be in possession of these qualities. Minute changes (constant flux) is continuous on the micro level, and nothing is static. ~freyja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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