Immortality / Richard

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Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider "

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> Nisargadatta , Richard <richarkar>

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> >So I pose the question to all: What happens after bodily death?

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> Golden: Who cares? I would rather pose the question to you - why

> do *you* care? Al is interested in focusing on past and you seem

> interested in focusing on future. If you pre-occupy with this you

> miss out on experiencing the present even in the midst of death.

> Escapism from the present is a full time job it seems. It sounds

> very holy if you bring the word god into it though.

 

Golden: I realize that due to internet dialogue chasms I should

elaborate on the Who Cares statement. I didn't mean it in the

flippant way as is often associated with that term. I meant that

you may (or may not) wish to inquire as to who actually is caring

here? And, why do you care? Choice is all it boils down to and

quite honestly if you want to choose an afterlife then you will have

one of your deepest and likely subconscious belief pattern. In

this case I see the movie " What Dreams May Come " as addressing this

topic quite succinctly.

 

However; these notions, ideas and choices are born out of hope -

hope for a future and underneathe that layer they are in fact born

out of fear - fear of not having a future - fear of death. Fear

produces many elaborate and embellished notions which transpose into

choices which transpose into experiences. And, still, I ask you

what keeps you locked into worrying about the future instead of

living today? Nirvana, heaven, hell, all that stuff can be a very

grand, self righteous and elaborate means of escapism. Why do you

want to escape all that you as this experience is and all that

entails? There is parts of it that you like and obviously parts

that you don't like. So you don't like the death/end part or you

wouldn't be fantasizing about keeping it going. I've been there and

had to face that experience myself so I know all to well what you're

going through. Then, I walked into the wilderness and now I'll tell

you this body won't die. I can do gawd knows what to it and it just

won't die. Which brings us back to a cycle of choice but now from a

different perspective. If you go into it - walk into it - see what

it offers in this very present moment. That means you get out of

the Al/Richard mindset of intellectualizing over every little

molecular past/future scenario (which is insatiable by the way) and

walk your talk now, this very moment. ~*~^~*~ now~*~~*~^~*~