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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...>

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> Thanks. But is it not unfair to include Pete in the game? He is

> probably in deep sleep right now and cannot defend himself...

>

> BTW. where do you come from?

>

> Happy springtime

> Stefan>>

 

Stefan,

 

I may be off the mark here, but from what I've read of Pete's

emails, I would put him in the category of the " ever awake " ones who

are conscious even in deep sleep. Maybe I've made a wrong

assessment, however, and in that case, I do apologize.

 

Pete, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

As far as me goes, I'm originally from New York City, currently

living in Durham, NC. I know Werner is in Germany, but where are

you? It's just beginning to be springtime down here and I'm looking

forward to the Summer Advaita Games. Are you going to play?

 

I'm not here to criticize anyone. I'm enjoying your dialogues

immensely. And I don't mean to slight Pete. It's just that I have

him behind on points and I'm trying to inspire him to pour it on a

little lest he fall too far behind, become discouraged and drop out.

 

I've run many marathons and know that just because you're leading at

mile 13.1, by the time you get to mile 21, you may be " hitting the

wall. "

 

It seems that Pete may be hitting his wall a little bit, but if he

can gut it out for a few miles that illusory " second wind "

might " apparently " kick in and he could pass both you guys on the

uphill portion of the course.

 

Then again, Pete may be setting you guys up for a fall. Let's just

see what happens.

 

But yeah, Happy Springtime. Definitely!

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Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...>

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>I may be off the mark here, but from what I've read of Pete's

>emails, I would put him in the category of the " ever awake " ones who

>are conscious even in deep sleep.

 

I just thought he might have switched off his computer...

 

>As far as me goes, I'm originally from New York City, currently

>living in Durham, NC. I know Werner is in Germany, but where are

>you?

 

I am from Greece, Island of Crete.

 

>It's just beginning to be springtime down here and I'm looking

>forward to the Summer Advaita Games. Are you going to play?

 

Nahhh... I will be busy playing my flute.

 

>I'm not here to criticize anyone. I'm enjoying your dialogues

>immensely. And I don't mean to slight Pete. It's just that I have

>him behind on points and I'm trying to inspire him to pour it on a

>little lest he fall too far behind, become discouraged and drop out.

 

Dont worry. He must be highly motivated now, usually his articles do

not get this amount of attention. This " multinational corporations "

thingy was brilliant for this purpose. On the other side, everything

has changed already again... Germany joined the game... and may I say

I am full of life energy. Although I suffer from a cold and have to

hold my head soon over a bowl with steaming camomile brew.

 

I am already excited to mirror the peculiar scent.

 

what else...

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

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>In a message dated 3/18/05 4:26:07 AM, falkgw@h... writes:

 

 

>Stephen also talks about the Pete in his mind (the boogie man

>Pete) he fights in his dreams. Stephen is getting better, learning

>a bit this one and a bit from that one. If you go back to November's

>postings, you will see how full of himself, his beliefs, and his

>gurus he was.

 

And I thought you are the one who has changed! But I can see now, you

still did not learn my name. But it is ok: names are only signs of

false identifications, dear Petro!

 

Maybe you will be disappointed, but I have to tell you: I still would

advice you to find a spiritual master. For those who dont remember,

this was the advice I gave to Pete after realizing how much he

suffered from his ego. In fact I was new in this group and was not

prepared to his reaction. He became so furious, insulting and rude

that I could not believe. He attacked me for several days continously,

changing around my words at will etc... you all know how it goes. This

has shown me how correct my assumtion was. Only a true master can kill

such an ego!

 

In fact I have spent a large part of my life with two masters. They

have both left their body in the meanwhile. I still bow down in

deepest respect, love and gratitude in front of them. They have

immensly helped me to discover my true simple face.

 

Now, Petro, the boogi blues man, wants to be my master.

 

>Exhorting everyone to only depend on, and quote the masters, and

>of course, crusading against the boogie man. Yeah, Stephen,

>has improved, he is more open to question his own beliefs now.

 

And what about your beliefs? This was the question here. But I can see

now that you are still carrying all this around with you. This

experience that was so disappointing and threatening to your

identified ego. Now, feel free to speak and give it a chance to go.

 

I can very well live without beliefs, it is a wonderful experience.

Doubt is the highest form of using the mind. After that there comes

nothing. But beliefs dont drop by fighting them. No way. They drop the

moment you recognise them. And to recognise them you have to accept

them first.

 

>But we must leave him along, he's too proud to admit he is wrong

>in public, or to admit he has learned anything from Werner, Lewis,

>or anyone else here.

 

I have learned here, yes. And I am proud, proud to be human. Pride

combined with love is the only state worth to be lived. It is the

greatest gift that we are as we are. And we all have the right to

stand up and take our heritage, our birth right: our true being.

 

Have a good day

Stefan

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