Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Just think, there is a universal, endless love so profound that it becomes all That Is, endlessly to give life to it separative/separation. > > It loves us unto eternity. > > It waits ever-so-patiently until we, the individuals of 'name' allow ourselves to be seen through by the ONE seeing. > > Beyond our name, the specifics of ethnicity, sex, intelligence, fortune and world placement, time. > > And yet, the alpha of separation and the omega of ONE never occurred in Reality. > > a. > > My idea is that the illusion of separation must appear for it to be the One and the Many. From this illusion of separation Oneness gradually connects back into more and more integration, wholeness and harmony _without_ losing the appearance of separation. In this transformation there will be conflict because bringing harmony out of a myriad of seemingly separate particles is not an easy task. To create individual unique self-aware beings that act as One Will _while_ still maintaining their individual wills is an extremely difficult task. An impossible, impossible, impossible task. Impossible until integration happens: from atoms to molecules to single cells to multi-celled organisms. An atom cannot go from atomness to being a butterfly without a titanic integration process creating larger and larger holons (whole that are parts of other wholes). If we look at the world today as a big cocoon, then we can understand all the conflict and all the wars that happen in the world. When the caterpillar dissolves inside its cocoon, it may look to be a mess. The caterpillar is being destroyed. But little does the caterpillar know that it is to become a butterfly. If there is love, if there is infinite intelligence, why then can't this intelligence create harmony instantly without needing billion of years of painful evolution and conflict? The answer is that infinite intelligence _can_ create harmony between all beings in an instant, _but_ time has to be created as an illusion as well. The time it takes for reality to create our world from the Big Bang is zero second, but the _feeling_ (and knowledge) of the time it has taken is 15 billion years. There is only now. This now has no time in it. Time is, like all forms of separation, an illusion. But in order for it to be the experience of time, time has to be created. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:18 PM Re: to AL Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Just think, there is a universal, endless love so profound that it becomes all That Is, endlessly to give life to it separative/separation. > > It loves us unto eternity. > > It waits ever-so-patiently until we, the individuals of 'name' allow ourselves to be seen through by the ONE seeing. > > Beyond our name, the specifics of ethnicity, sex, intelligence, fortune and world placement, time. > > And yet, the alpha of separation and the omega of ONE never occurred in Reality. > > a. > > My idea is that the illusion of separation must appear for it to be the One and the Many. From this illusion of separation Oneness gradually connects back into more and more integration, wholeness and harmony _without_ losing the appearance of separation. In this transformation there will be conflict because bringing harmony out of a myriad of seemingly separate particles is not an easy task. To create individual unique self-aware beings that act as One Will _while_ still maintaining their individual wills is an extremely difficult task. An impossible, impossible, impossible task. Impossible until integration happens: from atoms to molecules to single cells to multi-celled organisms. An atom cannot go from atomness to being a butterfly without a titanic integration process creating larger and larger holons (whole that are parts of other wholes). If we look at the world today as a big cocoon, then we can understand all the conflict and all the wars that happen in the world. When the caterpillar dissolves inside its cocoon, it may look to be a mess. The caterpillar is being destroyed. But little does the caterpillar know that it is to become a butterfly. If there is love, if there is infinite intelligence, why then can't this intelligence create harmony instantly without needing billion of years of painful evolution and conflict? The answer is that infinite intelligence _can_ create harmony between all beings in an instant, _but_ time has to be created as an illusion as well. The time it takes for reality to create our world from the Big Bang is zero second, but the _feeling_ (and knowledge) of the time it has taken is 15 billion years. There is only now. This now has no time in it. Time is, like all forms of separation, an illusion. But in order for it to be the experience of time, time has to be created. al. yes, in order to 'experience' separation. one has to go thru lightwaves, soundwaves, 'string', etc. into cohesion into form into body into mind and beyond...into ONE. the really interesting thing is each 'one' returning to ONE takes 'more' parts/particles of the matrix with him/her.... At least that is my observation.... a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:18 PM > Re: to AL > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > Just think, there is a universal, endless love so profound that it > becomes all That Is, endlessly to give life to it separative/separation. > > > > It loves us unto eternity. > > > > It waits ever-so-patiently until we, the individuals of 'name' allow > ourselves to be seen through by the ONE seeing. > > > > Beyond our name, the specifics of ethnicity, sex, intelligence, > fortune and world placement, time. > > > > And yet, the alpha of separation and the omega of ONE never occurred > in Reality. > > > > a. > > > > > > My idea is that the illusion of separation must appear for it to be > the One and the Many. From this illusion of separation Oneness > gradually connects back into more and more integration, wholeness and > harmony _without_ losing the appearance of separation. In this > transformation there will be conflict because bringing harmony out of > a myriad of seemingly separate particles is not an easy task. To > create individual unique self-aware beings that act as One Will > _while_ still maintaining their individual wills is an extremely > difficult task. An impossible, impossible, impossible task. Impossible > until integration happens: from atoms to molecules to single cells to > multi-celled organisms. An atom cannot go from atomness to being a > butterfly without a titanic integration process creating larger and > larger holons (whole that are parts of other wholes). If we look at > the world today as a big cocoon, then we can understand all the > conflict and all the wars that happen in the world. When the > caterpillar dissolves inside its cocoon, it may look to be a mess. The > caterpillar is being destroyed. But little does the caterpillar know > that it is to become a butterfly. > > If there is love, if there is infinite intelligence, why then can't > this intelligence create harmony instantly without needing billion of > years of painful evolution and conflict? The answer is that infinite > intelligence _can_ create harmony between all beings in an instant, > _but_ time has to be created as an illusion as well. The time it takes > for reality to create our world from the Big Bang is zero second, but > the _feeling_ (and knowledge) of the time it has taken is 15 billion > years. There is only now. This now has no time in it. Time is, like > all forms of separation, an illusion. But in order for it to be the > experience of time, time has to be created. > > al. > > > > > yes, in order to 'experience' separation. one has to go thru lightwaves, soundwaves, 'string', > etc. into cohesion into form into > body into mind and beyond...into ONE. > the really interesting thing is each 'one' returning to ONE takes 'more' > parts/particles of the matrix with him/her.... > > At least that is my observation.... > > a. > It will be interesting to see if there really is the returning to ONE, a returning to harmony gradually taking place here on earth now. My hope is that there is. As an experiment one can begin to see if it is possible to sense the world as a coherent field, a sense of connectedness with all things. It is not easy to feel connectedness with people who are hateful, evil. It is not even easy to feel real connectedness with people one has a friendly relationship with. But an easy path to compassion is to recognize the deep pain and suffering in other people, especially when they display hatefulness and meanness. There is a deep core of fear running through humanity, and getting in touch with this core and seeing how it has a hold on society can directly bring compassion to one's awareness. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:01 PM Re: to AL Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:18 PM > Re: to AL > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > Just think, there is a universal, endless love so profound that it > becomes all That Is, endlessly to give life to it separative/separation. > > > > It loves us unto eternity. > > > > It waits ever-so-patiently until we, the individuals of 'name' allow > ourselves to be seen through by the ONE seeing. > > > > Beyond our name, the specifics of ethnicity, sex, intelligence, > fortune and world placement, time. > > > > And yet, the alpha of separation and the omega of ONE never occurred > in Reality. > > > > a. > > > > > > My idea is that the illusion of separation must appear for it to be > the One and the Many. From this illusion of separation Oneness > gradually connects back into more and more integration, wholeness and > harmony _without_ losing the appearance of separation. In this > transformation there will be conflict because bringing harmony out of > a myriad of seemingly separate particles is not an easy task. To > create individual unique self-aware beings that act as One Will > _while_ still maintaining their individual wills is an extremely > difficult task. An impossible, impossible, impossible task. Impossible > until integration happens: from atoms to molecules to single cells to > multi-celled organisms. An atom cannot go from atomness to being a > butterfly without a titanic integration process creating larger and > larger holons (whole that are parts of other wholes). If we look at > the world today as a big cocoon, then we can understand all the > conflict and all the wars that happen in the world. When the > caterpillar dissolves inside its cocoon, it may look to be a mess. The > caterpillar is being destroyed. But little does the caterpillar know > that it is to become a butterfly. > > If there is love, if there is infinite intelligence, why then can't > this intelligence create harmony instantly without needing billion of > years of painful evolution and conflict? The answer is that infinite > intelligence _can_ create harmony between all beings in an instant, > _but_ time has to be created as an illusion as well. The time it takes > for reality to create our world from the Big Bang is zero second, but > the _feeling_ (and knowledge) of the time it has taken is 15 billion > years. There is only now. This now has no time in it. Time is, like > all forms of separation, an illusion. But in order for it to be the > experience of time, time has to be created. > > al. > > > > > yes, in order to 'experience' separation. one has to go thru lightwaves, soundwaves, 'string', > etc. into cohesion into form into > body into mind and beyond...into ONE. > the really interesting thing is each 'one' returning to ONE takes 'more' > parts/particles of the matrix with him/her.... > > At least that is my observation.... > > a. > It will be interesting to see if there really is the returning to ONE, a returning to harmony gradually taking place here on earth now. My hope is that there is. As an experiment one can begin to see if it is possible to sense the world as a coherent field, a sense of connectedness with all things. It is not easy to feel connectedness with people who are hateful, evil. It is not even easy to feel real connectedness with people one has a friendly relationship with. But an easy path to compassion is to recognize the deep pain and suffering in other people, especially when they display hatefulness and meanness. There is a deep core of fear running through humanity, and getting in touch with this core and seeing how it has a hold on society can directly bring compassion to one's awareness. /AL The way i have come to know This is since all This is 'consciousness' which i have identified as 'mine'. evil, hateful is also 'inside' me. as such 'healing' takes a totally different venue. no outside/inside, i and thou, which is in its purity, compassion. i have enjoyed this, thank you, anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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