Has anyone seen my prana? (It was just here a minute ago)

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Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

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>> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Caminamos

> <caminamosnet>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > When we see everything around us grey and dull,

> > > > > probably what is blurred is not the world, but the way

> > > > > we look at it.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > in yoga it is called the prana.>>

> > >

> > > In yoga it's called Maya!

> >

> > maya in yo' head, man.>>

>

> Yo,He-man, That's EXACTLY what I was saying. It's called Maya,

and

> it's all in yo' head. Man!

>

>

>

>

> Anna: I repeat myself, Prana is alive and is dancing light.

That is also 'in' one's head.. Thinking it is Maya is what makes

seeing Prana dull and gray and blurred.

>

> later,

 

> *****

 

I think we lost an email here or there.

 

What I said (in that post) was that what I thought He-man meant to

say was " Prajna " not " Prana. "

 

That would make more sense out of his statement.

 

It's prajna, not prana, that " corrects " our human astigmatism, not

prana, which merely keeps us alive.

 

And sorry, Anna, but there is no such thing as " seeing Prana. "

 

I don't think that even Sai Baba can produce even a gram of it to

hand out with his vibuti.

 

It's only a concept, after all.

 

And I don't think Maya is prana. Maya is simply our capacity to

delude ourselves into thinking the world is something that it's not.

I don't think the world, or prana for that matter, is " dull and grey

and blurred. " Nor do I think that either the world or prana is Maya

either.

 

Prana provides the wherewithal whereby we may " see the world. "

Period!!

 

Maya causes us to " see the world " in a blurred way.

 

Prajna is THAT which enables or causes us to " see the world " as it

really is.

 

The World itself doesn't give a shit about prana, maya, prajna or any

other CONCEPT!!

 

Go get some prana and let's put it under a microscope. Let's see

just what kind of a dance it's doing.

 

" Hey mambo, mambo pranamayana.

Go, go, go. Prana mamboayana. " (Rosemary Clooney)

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garyfalk1943

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:54 PM

Has anyone seen my prana? (It was just here a minute

ago)

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

>

>> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Caminamos

> <caminamosnet>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > When we see everything around us grey and dull,

> > > > > probably what is blurred is not the world, but the way

> > > > > we look at it.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > in yoga it is called the prana.>>

> > >

> > > In yoga it's called Maya!

> >

> > maya in yo' head, man.>>

>

> Yo,He-man, That's EXACTLY what I was saying. It's called Maya,

and

> it's all in yo' head. Man!

>

>

>

>

> Anna: I repeat myself, Prana is alive and is dancing light.

That is also 'in' one's head.. Thinking it is Maya is what makes

seeing Prana dull and gray and blurred.

>

> later,

 

> *****

 

I think we lost an email here or there.

 

What I said (in that post) was that what I thought He-man meant to

say was " Prajna " not " Prana. "

 

That would make more sense out of his statement.

 

It's prajna, not prana, that " corrects " our human astigmatism, not

prana, which merely keeps us alive.

 

And sorry, Anna, but there is no such thing as " seeing Prana. "

 

I don't think that even Sai Baba can produce even a gram of it to

hand out with his vibuti.

 

It's only a concept, after all.

 

And I don't think Maya is prana. Maya is simply our capacity to

delude ourselves into thinking the world is something that it's not.

I don't think the world, or prana for that matter, is " dull and grey

and blurred. " Nor do I think that either the world or prana is Maya

either.

 

Prana provides the wherewithal whereby we may " see the world. "

Period!!

 

Maya causes us to " see the world " in a blurred way.

 

Prajna is THAT which enables or causes us to " see the world " as it

really is.

 

The World itself doesn't give a shit about prana, maya, prajna or any

other CONCEPT!!

 

Go get some prana and let's put it under a microscope. Let's see

just what kind of a dance it's doing.

 

" Hey mambo, mambo pranamayana.

Go, go, go. Prana mamboayana. " (Rosemary Clooney)

 

 

 

 

 

Gary,

 

Prana (or your choice of word) is Life.

What would you have Consciousness Be? What would you have Consciousness be

made from/of? (The consciousness of a tree is a tree and the attributes of

tree-ness) What microscope would you use and what do you think you would see?

 

And what would you call This?

 

The world Is.

No concepts need to be added..

but they exist (you answer how)

This/That

he/she or she/she, he/he

self/not self

good/bad

god/devil

man/god

man/devil

life/death

here/there

before/now

now/then

only/now

word/silence

silence of I am

symphony of One

or the symphony of I am

and the silence of One

(list your favorites here)

 

and now for the conga line.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

> >

> >> > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , Caminamos

> > <caminamosnet>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > When we see everything around us grey and dull,

> > > > > > probably what is blurred is not the world, but the way

> > > > > > we look at it.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > in yoga it is called the prana.>>

> > > >

> > > > In yoga it's called Maya!

> > >

> > > maya in yo' head, man.>>

> >

> > Yo,He-man, That's EXACTLY what I was saying. It's called Maya,

> and

> > it's all in yo' head. Man!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Anna: I repeat myself, Prana is alive and is dancing light.

> That is also 'in' one's head.. Thinking it is Maya is what makes

> seeing Prana dull and gray and blurred.

> >

> > later,

>

> > *****

>

> I think we lost an email here or there.

>

> What I said (in that post) was that what I thought He-man meant to

> say was " Prajna " not " Prana. "

>

 

prana was correct. prana is more than dancing lights. it is the

life-force.

 

in yoga philosophy we do not sense the world directly. we sense the

prana. the world interacts with the senses which interact with the

perceiver via prana. the mind and prana are two sides of the same coin.

 

if you see the world as dull, it is the prana which is dull.

overactive prana causes hyperactivity. prana has to be in balance.

overeating, or starving, or eating unhealthy foods, also disturb the

prana.

 

when the prana leaves, the body dies.

 

some authors identify it as the psychic energy in the nervous system.

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hemantbhai100

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:54 PM

Re: Has anyone seen my prana? (It was just here a

minute ago)

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

> >

> >> > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , Caminamos

> > <caminamosnet>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > When we see everything around us grey and dull,

> > > > > > probably what is blurred is not the world, but the way

> > > > > > we look at it.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > in yoga it is called the prana.>>

> > > >

> > > > In yoga it's called Maya!

> > >

> > > maya in yo' head, man.>>

> >

> > Yo,He-man, That's EXACTLY what I was saying. It's called Maya,

> and

> > it's all in yo' head. Man!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Anna: I repeat myself, Prana is alive and is dancing light.

> That is also 'in' one's head.. Thinking it is Maya is what makes

> seeing Prana dull and gray and blurred.

> >

> > later,

>

> > *****

>

> I think we lost an email here or there.

>

> What I said (in that post) was that what I thought He-man meant to

> say was " Prajna " not " Prana. "

>

 

prana was correct. prana is more than dancing lights. it is the

life-force.

 

in yoga philosophy we do not sense the world directly. we sense the

prana. the world interacts with the senses which interact with the

perceiver via prana. the mind and prana are two sides of the same coin.

 

if you see the world as dull, it is the prana which is dull.

overactive prana causes hyperactivity. prana has to be in balance.

overeating, or starving, or eating unhealthy foods, also disturb the

prana.

 

when the prana leaves, the body dies.

 

some authors identify it as the psychic energy in the nervous system.

 

 

 

Hi hemantbhai100,

dancing electrons=light

 

dullness is seen when one sees the 'world' thru maya. usually the world is

conceived/spoken as/about Maya. the 'separate' individual, instead is Maya,

hence the dullness, the inability or difficulty of seeing This as it Is.

 

How can prana be dull--it is Alive. If there is any dullness it is in the

seeing, in the seeing of oneself, in/as a dis-ease, so to speak.

 

Anna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

>

> -

> hemantbhai100

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:54 PM

> Re: Has anyone seen my prana? (It was just

here a minute ago)

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...>

wrote:

> > >

> > >> > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , Caminamos

> > > <caminamosnet>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > When we see everything around us grey and dull,

> > > > > > > probably what is blurred is not the world, but the way

> > > > > > > we look at it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in yoga it is called the prana.>>

> > > > >

> > > > > In yoga it's called Maya!

> > > >

> > > > maya in yo' head, man.>>

> > >

> > > Yo,He-man, That's EXACTLY what I was saying. It's called Maya,

> > and

> > > it's all in yo' head. Man!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Anna: I repeat myself, Prana is alive and is dancing light.

> > That is also 'in' one's head.. Thinking it is Maya is what makes

> > seeing Prana dull and gray and blurred.

> > >

> > > later,

> >

> > > *****

> >

> > I think we lost an email here or there.

> >

> > What I said (in that post) was that what I thought He-man meant to

> > say was " Prajna " not " Prana. "

> >

>

> prana was correct. prana is more than dancing lights. it is the

> life-force.

>

> in yoga philosophy we do not sense the world directly. we sense the

> prana. the world interacts with the senses which interact with the

> perceiver via prana. the mind and prana are two sides of the same

coin.

>

> if you see the world as dull, it is the prana which is dull.

> overactive prana causes hyperactivity. prana has to be in balance.

> overeating, or starving, or eating unhealthy foods, also disturb the

> prana.

>

> when the prana leaves, the body dies.

>

> some authors identify it as the psychic energy in the nervous system.

>

>

>

> Hi hemantbhai100,

> dancing electrons=light

>

> dullness is seen when one sees the 'world' thru maya. usually the

world is conceived/spoken as/about Maya. the 'separate' individual,

instead is Maya,

> hence the dullness, the inability or difficulty of seeing This as

it Is.

>

 

as it IS, it cannot be seen, because the spectrum is infinite. what we

see is the prana. when we go to sleep the prana circuits stop

connecting to external senses.

 

> How can prana be dull--it is Alive. If there is any dullness it

is in the seeing, in the seeing of oneself, in/as a dis-ease, so to

speak.

>

the act of seeing is being aware of the prana.

 

it is alive, but it can be dull, or it can be unbalanced etc. an alive

person can be sick, colour blind, etc. the " presence " is the same, but

the experience of the world has different qualities, depending on the

prana.

 

eg if you have a fever and everything seems dull, have you changed? or

has the prana changed?