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> Faithe:

>

> This " falling into its self --where/what

> is this " self " that everything is

> falling into?

 

 

Toomy:

Why Faithe.....it is the " I am "

 

That is the only door in......and the only door out.

 

What's inside you ask?

 

Every thing

 

What's outside you ask?

 

Nothing

 

Faithe:

 

Door? Inside/Outside? Separation?

Only door In/Out - sounds like the

big JC (only through me can you get

to heaven).

 

I think you need to talk to your

disciple Kenji, Toomy. Maybe he

can straighten all this out for

you.

 

I don't do doors.I just provide

definitions.

 

Hey you want a definition of

" fillers " ? This is new for me -

Anna shared it. Fillers = words.

 

Up till then I thought fillers

were those things that actors

do in the movies when they have

to use up time to make the

people think they used their

money wisely. You know, like

every movie these days, one

has to watch two men having

a nonsensical conversation while

taking a piss. We get to hear

the drops hitting the water...

and then the great flush.

 

Oh yeah, this I AM, I almost

forgot...is your " I am "

different from my " I am " ?

 

I asked Sandeep that one time.

He shit a brick (perfect filler).

He never did answer the question.

 

What about you...you going to

shit, piss, get off the pot or

answer the question?

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Faithe Arden " <faithe@v...> wrote:

> > Faithe:

> >

> > This " falling into its self --where/what

> > is this " self " that everything is

> > falling into?

>

>

> Toomy:

> Why Faithe.....it is the " I am "

>

> That is the only door in......and the only door out.

>

> What's inside you ask?

>

> Every thing

>

> What's outside you ask?

>

> Nothing

>

> Faithe:

>

> Door? Inside/Outside? Separation?

> Only door In/Out - sounds like the

> big JC (only through me can you get

> to heaven).

>

> I think you need to talk to your

> disciple Kenji, Toomy. Maybe he

> can straighten all this out for

> you.

>

> I don't do doors.I just provide

> definitions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Her flag unfurled in the hot desert wind:

 

 

 

" Define and divide "

 

 

 

 

She ran down the hill............screaming obscenities ..........at the enemy.

 

 

 

 

>

> Hey you want a definition of

> " fillers " ? This is new for me -

> Anna shared it. Fillers = words.

>

> Up till then I thought fillers

> were those things that actors

> do in the movies when they have

> to use up time to make the

> people think they used their

> money wisely. You know, like

> every movie these days, one

> has to watch two men having

> a nonsensical conversation while

> taking a piss. We get to hear

> the drops hitting the water...

> and then the great flush.

>

> Oh yeah, this I AM, I almost

> forgot...is your " I am "

> different from my " I am " ?

>

> I asked Sandeep that one time.

> He shit a brick (perfect filler).

> He never did answer the question.

>

> What about you...you going to

> shit, piss, get off the pot or

> answer the question?

 

 

 

 

 

Every teaspoon of water that you remove from the river....is different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> > Faithe:

> >

> > This " falling into its self --where/what

> > is this " self " that everything is

> > falling into?

>

>

> Toomy:

> Why Faithe.....it is the " I am "

>

> That is the only door in......and the only door out.

>

> What's inside you ask?

>

> Every thing

>

> What's outside you ask?

>

> Nothing

>

> Faithe:

>

> Door? Inside/Outside? Separation?

> Only door In/Out - sounds like the

> big JC (only through me can you get

> to heaven).

>

> I think you need to talk to your

> disciple Kenji, Toomy. Maybe he

> can straighten all this out for

> you.

>

> I don't do doors.I just provide

> definitions.

 

 

 

Toomey:

 

 

Her flag unfurled in the hot desert wind:

 

 

" Define and divide "

 

 

She ran down the hill............screaming obscenities ..........at the enemy.

 

Faithe:

 

No Toomey...it's divide and

conquer...do I have to spell

everything out for you?

 

Definitions do not divide -

or conquer.

 

What enemy do you see? Tell

me and I'd be obliged to

shout out whatever obscenities

you deem needed to protect

your weary " self " .

 

 

 

>

> Hey you want a definition of

> " fillers " ? This is new for me -

> Anna shared it. Fillers = words.

>

> Up till then I thought fillers

> were those things that actors

> do in the movies when they have

> to use up time to make the

> people think they used their

> money wisely. You know, like

> every movie these days, one

> has to watch two men having

> a nonsensical conversation while

> taking a piss. We get to hear

> the drops hitting the water...

> and then the great flush.

>

> Oh yeah, this I AM, I almost

> forgot...is your " I am "

> different from my " I am " ?

>

> I asked Sandeep that one time.

> He shit a brick (perfect filler).

> He never did answer the question.

>

> What about you...you going to

> shit, piss, get off the pot or

> answer the question?

 

Toomy:

 

Every teaspoon of water that you remove from the river....is different.

 

 

Faithe:

 

Right! And each river is different...

so according to the word of Toomy,

each " I am " is different!

 

Thanks, I feel much better now with

this insight.

 

Oh, wait a minute...another question

popped up...if there are many teaspoons

in the river and there are many

rivers...does that mean that some

share the same " I am " , but

others share a different " I am " and

on and on and on and on????

 

Oh, oh, let's call in the disciple

troops. Kenji, where are you when

we need you.

 

Perhaps this is serious enough to

get Mr. Enlightenment involved.

 

What a can of worms you have

opened, Toomey.

 

 

Sheesh...thanks for nothin...

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Faithe Arden " <faithe@v...> wrote:

> > > Faithe:

> > >

> > > This " falling into its self --where/what

> > > is this " self " that everything is

> > > falling into?

> >

> >

> > Toomy:

> > Why Faithe.....it is the " I am "

> >

> > That is the only door in......and the only door out.

> >

> > What's inside you ask?

> >

> > Every thing

> >

> > What's outside you ask?

> >

> > Nothing

> >

> > Faithe:

> >

> > Door? Inside/Outside? Separation?

> > Only door In/Out - sounds like the

> > big JC (only through me can you get

> > to heaven).

> >

> > I think you need to talk to your

> > disciple Kenji, Toomy. Maybe he

> > can straighten all this out for

> > you.

> >

> > I don't do doors.I just provide

> > definitions.

>

>

>

> Toomey:

>

>

> Her flag unfurled in the hot desert wind:

>

>

> " Define and divide "

>

>

> She ran down the hill............screaming obscenities ..........at the enemy.

>

> Faithe:

>

> No Toomey...it's divide and

> conquer...do I have to spell

> everything out for you?

>

> Definitions do not divide -

> or conquer.

>

> What enemy do you see? Tell

> me and I'd be obliged to

> shout out whatever obscenities

> you deem needed to protect

> your weary " self " .

>

>

>

> >

> > Hey you want a definition of

> > " fillers " ? This is new for me -

> > Anna shared it. Fillers = words.

> >

> > Up till then I thought fillers

> > were those things that actors

> > do in the movies when they have

> > to use up time to make the

> > people think they used their

> > money wisely. You know, like

> > every movie these days, one

> > has to watch two men having

> > a nonsensical conversation while

> > taking a piss. We get to hear

> > the drops hitting the water...

> > and then the great flush.

> >

> > Oh yeah, this I AM, I almost

> > forgot...is your " I am "

> > different from my " I am " ?

> >

> > I asked Sandeep that one time.

> > He shit a brick (perfect filler).

> > He never did answer the question.

> >

> > What about you...you going to

> > shit, piss, get off the pot or

> > answer the question?

>

> Toomy:

>

> Every teaspoon of water that you remove from the river....is different.

>

>

> Faithe:

>

> Right! And each river is different...

> so according to the word of Toomy,

> each " I am " is different!

>

> Thanks, I feel much better now with

> this insight.

>

> Oh, wait a minute...another question

> popped up...if there are many teaspoons

> in the river and there are many

> rivers...does that mean that some

> share the same " I am " , but

> others share a different " I am " and

> on and on and on and on????

>

> Oh, oh, let's call in the disciple

> troops. Kenji, where are you when

> we need you.

>

> Perhaps this is serious enough to

> get Mr. Enlightenment involved.

>

> What a can of worms you have

> opened, Toomey.

>

>

> Sheesh...thanks for nothin...

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

Ok...........I'll try to come up with something that fits your preconceptual

delusion.

 

......but you'll have to give me some time.........and interest.

 

 

 

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Ok...........I'll try to come up with something that fits your preconceptual

delusion.

 

......but you'll have to give me some time.........and interest.

 

 

 

toombaru

 

Faithe:

 

ROFLMAO

 

I am not asking for something that " fits " my

preconceptual delusion. I want an answer

to the question.

 

I repeat the question:

 

Is your " I am " the same as my " I am " ?

 

A simple yes/no would suffice. After all

it is just your opinion.

 

The way you talk around here, I thought

you'd have the answer at the tip of your

fingers at all times.

 

And what is this about " interest " ... the

" I am " bores you? You are the one who

brought him/her/it up in the first place.

 

Or, do you want me to pay you for the

services of answering the question - is

that the " interest " you are talking about?

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Faithe Arden " <faithe@v...> wrote:

> Ok...........I'll try to come up with something that fits your preconceptual

delusion.

>

> .....but you'll have to give me some time.........and interest.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

> Faithe:

>

> ROFLMAO

>

> I am not asking for something that " fits " my

> preconceptual delusion. I want an answer

> to the question.

 

No......you don't.

 

You want to confirm your own assumption of personal reality by validating that

rather

unstable belief system that you drag around behind your self.

 

 

 

 

 

Any answer that is provided would have to agree with your personal world view in

order

for you to accept it.......

 

 

 

 

>

> I repeat the question:

>

> Is your " I am " the same as my " I am " ?

 

 

From the perspective of the individual identified I amness......all I-ams appear

to be

separate....and from that perspetive they are.

 

just as the people in your dream last night appear to be " separate " .

 

 

but in truth they are not " separate " ...in that they have no autonomous

existential

reality......

 

 

Can you see where this is going?

 

 

 

They are separate......but they are not separate.

 

 

>

> A simple yes/no would suffice. After all

> it is just your opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you like it here better then in the summer?

 

 

Please answer with a simple yes or no,

 

 

 

>

> The way you talk around here, I thought

> you'd have the answer at the tip of your

> fingers at all times.

 

 

Any " answer " that comes from here is teased from within this memory bank.

 

I have mentioned lots of times that I have no idea what's going on.......and at

this

stage....tend to believe that no one does.....

 

 

 

 

>

> And what is this about " interest " ... the

> " I am " bores you?

 

 

 

It is indeed a rather limited......stinky little monkey.

 

 

You are the one who

> brought him/her/it up in the first place.

 

 

 

" I " had no choice.

 

 

 

>

> Or, do you want me to pay you for the

> services of answering the question - is

> that the " interest " you are talking about?

 

 

I have all the money that I will ever need......but you could .....if you wish

make a small

donation to the Republican Party in my name.

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Faithe Arden " <faithe@v...> wrote:

>>

> Faithe:

>

> ROFLMAO

>

>

> I repeat the question:

>

> Is your " I am " the same as my " I am " ?

 

 

Yes.

 

>

> A simple yes/no would suffice. After all

> it is just your opinion.

 

IMO, " I AM " = awareness of being. That awareness,

prior to any qualification, such as I am ________

(human, female, etc.) is therefore without any

qualities that would distinguish it from another's.

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