Guest guest Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > <falkgw@h...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If we want to have true faith we cannot pretend to have it. > > But we > > > > can > > > > > sort of experiment with the idea that the thinking mind is > not > > the > > > > > highest state for humanity. I look at my own thinking and > can > > see > > > > that > > > > > it is very limited. My " beliefs " crumble second by second. > My > > > > thinking > > > > > cannot give me a solid platform. This is very easy to see by > > > > observing > > > > > the fact that when something good happens in my life it has > > seldom > > > > > come as a result of my rational thinking. In fact, my > thinking > > is > > > > most > > > > > of the time some kind of worrying. Having seen the > > incompetence of > > > > my > > > > > own thinking I can turn to faith. Not true faith perhaps, > but > > some > > > > > sort of hoping that there must be some higher intelligence > > than my > > > > > conditioned thinking mind. People, including myself, often > > feel not > > > > > good enough, and maybe that is a very accurate observation! > > > > > > > > > > " ...stop trying to create a good world for > > yourself.........stop > > > > > trying to create _a_ world........which you will say is > > > > > heaven............but it's not going to feel like > > > > > heaven............Give up!.........abandon the idea that you > > can > > > > > create anything for yourself..............What you can do is > > to > > > > give > > > > > up the phony illusion of being a creator.........and then > > creation > > > > can > > > > > come to you....... " -- Vernon Howard > > > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > al, I hadn't seen Vernon Howard's name pop up anywhere in > years, > > > > until you started quoting him. > > > > > > > > I credit Vernon Howard's " Mystic Path to Cosmic Power " with > > saving > > > > my life. Literally. > > > > > > > > I was absolutely at the end of my rope about 20 years ago, > when > > I > > > > saw a copy of that book at the home of a customer of mine who > I > > used > > > > to chauffer around NYC. > > > > > > > > I said to the guy, " that book looks interesting, " and he > > said, " Take > > > > it. I bought it for my wife but she isn't interested in that > > stuff > > > > anyway. " > > > > > > > > And the rest, as they say, is History. > > > > > > > > Jai Vernon! Jai Guru! Jai Ma! > > > > > > The interesting thing with Vernon Howard is that he sounds like > he > > > knew what he talked about. I suspect that he had some real form > of > > > awakening from which he spoke. > > > > > > al. > > > > ** That's totally your construction, of course. To be > aware/awake > > just > > means seeing that you're inventing/manufacturing a supposed > > event/reality with a an equally ficticious knower/observer > > of it-- a self that hopes/believes 'he' can awaken...whatever. > > > > And in the process, being unaware/ignorant of 'what is'--which > > can never be constructed/described/remembered/achieved. > > > > Ken>> > > Hey Ken, > > How long have you been sitting at the lotus feet of Master Toomey. > > When is he going to give you your spiritual name? It certainly > sounds like you've earned it. > > Mr. Enlightenment Kenji, I'm sorry. I forgot to warn you about the nature of baby pigs. When someone tries to waken from their deep sleep.......they squeeeel They are relatively comfortable....well fed....and safe...(so they think). They slumber in their enclosure.....totally unaware of the real world....shimmering just outside the pen. Little do they know what LIFE has in mind for them....:-0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > <falkgw@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to have true faith we cannot pretend to have it. > > > But we > > > > > can > > > > > > sort of experiment with the idea that the thinking mind is > > not > > > the > > > > > > highest state for humanity. I look at my own thinking and > > can > > > see > > > > > that > > > > > > it is very limited. My " beliefs " crumble second by second. > > My > > > > > thinking > > > > > > cannot give me a solid platform. This is very easy to see by > > > > > observing > > > > > > the fact that when something good happens in my life it has > > > seldom > > > > > > come as a result of my rational thinking. In fact, my > > thinking > > > is > > > > > most > > > > > > of the time some kind of worrying. Having seen the > > > incompetence of > > > > > my > > > > > > own thinking I can turn to faith. Not true faith perhaps, > > but > > > some > > > > > > sort of hoping that there must be some higher intelligence > > > than my > > > > > > conditioned thinking mind. People, including myself, often > > > feel not > > > > > > good enough, and maybe that is a very accurate observation! > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...stop trying to create a good world for > > > yourself.........stop > > > > > > trying to create _a_ world........which you will say is > > > > > > heaven............but it's not going to feel like > > > > > > heaven............Give up!.........abandon the idea that you > > > can > > > > > > create anything for yourself..............What you can do is > > > to > > > > > give > > > > > > up the phony illusion of being a creator.........and then > > > creation > > > > > can > > > > > > come to you....... " -- Vernon Howard > > > > > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > al, I hadn't seen Vernon Howard's name pop up anywhere in > > years, > > > > > until you started quoting him. > > > > > > > > > > I credit Vernon Howard's " Mystic Path to Cosmic Power " with > > > saving > > > > > my life. Literally. > > > > > > > > > > I was absolutely at the end of my rope about 20 years ago, > > when > > > I > > > > > saw a copy of that book at the home of a customer of mine who > > I > > > used > > > > > to chauffer around NYC. > > > > > > > > > > I said to the guy, " that book looks interesting, " and he > > > said, " Take > > > > > it. I bought it for my wife but she isn't interested in that > > > stuff > > > > > anyway. " > > > > > > > > > > And the rest, as they say, is History. > > > > > > > > > > Jai Vernon! Jai Guru! Jai Ma! > > > > > > > > The interesting thing with Vernon Howard is that he sounds like > > he > > > > knew what he talked about. I suspect that he had some real form > > of > > > > awakening from which he spoke. > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > ** That's totally your construction, of course. To be > > aware/awake > > > just > > > means seeing that you're inventing/manufacturing a supposed > > > event/reality with a an equally ficticious knower/observer > > > of it-- a self that hopes/believes 'he' can awaken...whatever. > > > > > > And in the process, being unaware/ignorant of 'what is'-- which > > > can never be constructed/described/remembered/achieved. > > > > > > Ken>> > > > > Hey Ken, > > > > How long have you been sitting at the lotus feet of Master Toomey. > > > > When is he going to give you your spiritual name? It certainly > > sounds like you've earned it. > > > > Mr. Enlightenment > > > > Kenji, > > I'm sorry. > > > I forgot to warn you about the nature of baby pigs. > > > When someone tries to waken from their deep sleep.......they squeeeel > > > They are relatively comfortable....well fed....and safe...(so they think). > > They slumber in their enclosure.....totally unaware of the real world....shimmering just > outside the pen. > > Little do they know what LIFE has in mind for them....:-0 > > > > > toombaru ** That's okay...like Toom or Ken, the 'Gary thread' is gone as soon as it appears. No one can really take his toys away from him; we're just labelling them with a few hazard warnings. ;=} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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