Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 In a message dated 4/3/05 12:37:39 PM, sam_t_7 writes: > Seeker: > If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is the way > out? > > Maharaj Nis: > There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is also > part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as dream. > > Seeker: > If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream, where > will it lead me? > > Maharaj Nis: > Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of going > beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you > are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways > out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like > one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the dream > as a dream, you have done all that needs be done. > > -from " I am That " > > > > P: Even Maharaj wasn't above using bullshit as a teaching tool. If you call everything a dream, what meaning could the word dream have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 4/3/05 12:37:39 PM, sam_t_7 writes: > > > > Seeker: > > If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is the way > > out? > > > > Maharaj Nis: > > There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is also > > part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as dream. > > > > Seeker: > > If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream, where > > will it lead me? > > > > Maharaj Nis: > > Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of going > > beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you > > are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways > > out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like > > one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the dream > > as a dream, you have done all that needs be done. > > > > -from " I am That " > > > > > > > > > > P: Even Maharaj wasn't above using bullshit as a teaching tool. > > Sam: The cheapest trick in spirituality is to dismiss the unpleasant and the troublesome usage of bullshit as a teaching tool. > P:If you call everything a dream, what meaning could the word dream have? Sam: That's what everybody is searching for isn't it? Or trying to explain. The meaning of the dream. The meaning of meaning. The more appropriate question may be to ask yourself, What happens when you have seen the dream as a dream and therein have done all that needs to be done? (using nisargadattas terminology of *need* and *done*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/3/05 12:37:39 PM, sam_t_7 writes: > > > > > > > Seeker: > > > If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is the > way > > > out? > > > > > > Maharaj Nis: > > > There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is > also > > > part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as > dream. > > > > > > Seeker: > > > If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream, > where > > > will it lead me? > > > > > > Maharaj Nis: > > > Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of going > > > beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that > you > > > are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for > ways > > > out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like > > > one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the > dream > > > as a dream, you have done all that needs be done. > > > > > > -from " I am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Even Maharaj wasn't above using bullshit as a > teaching tool. > > > > > > Sam: The cheapest trick in spirituality is to dismiss the unpleasant > and the troublesome usage of bullshit as a teaching tool. > > > > P:If you call everything a dream, what meaning could the word > dream have? > > Sam: That's what everybody is searching for isn't it? Or trying to > explain. The meaning of the dream. The meaning of meaning. The > more appropriate question may be to ask yourself, What happens when > you have seen the dream as a dream and therein have done all that > needs to be done? (using nisargadattas terminology of *need* and > *done*) Wei Wu Wei tells us that there is nothing outside of the dream. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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