Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is what it is. you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you have to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease to be bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. it has to carry on its work. Sam: this is the place of the realized non-seeker. The realization is there ----- with a twist. It sounds like Al is moving out of the seeker mode and into this mode. The dream is still a dream but it looks a little different from this view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the > universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. > > there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is what it > is. > > you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you > have > to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. > > accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease to be > bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. > > struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. it has > to carry on its work. As long as you believe that it is you who is looking...........you are lost at see. toombaru > > Sam: this is the place of the realized non-seeker. The realization > is there ----- with a twist. It sounds like Al is moving out of > the seeker mode and into this mode. The dream is still a dream but > it looks a little different from this view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the > > universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. > > > > there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is what it > > is. > > > > you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you > > have > > to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. > > > > accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease to be > > bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. > > > > struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. it has > > to carry on its work. > > > > > As long as you believe that it is you who is looking...........you are lost at see. > > eventually " you " have to come to peace with " yourself " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > > > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the > > > universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. > > > > > > there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is what it > > > is. > > > > > > you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you > > > have > > > to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. > > > > > > accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease to be > > > bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. > > > > > > struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. it has > > > to carry on its work. > > > > > > > > > > As long as you believe that it is you who is looking...........you > are lost at see. > > > > > > eventually " you " have to come to peace with " yourself " Yes indeed....if you could just find it. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the > universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. > > there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is what it > is. > > you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you > have > to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. > > accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease to be > bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. > > struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. it has > to carry on its work. > > Sam: this is the place of the realized non-seeker. The realization > is there ----- with a twist. It sounds like Al is moving out of > the seeker mode and into this mode. The dream is still a dream but > it looks a little different from this view. ** No, there's only the totality of " what is " and it's not separated or divided into seekers and realizers. Definitions seem to divide, make difference, but they dissolve as they form, and return to ____, which is not a blank. There's no 'accepting,' or moving of any kind--just a passing impression 'created' by a (passing) assumption that definitions can 'create' anything real at all--like a me having changing experiences or attaining some knowledge. Definitions can be useful in their appropriate context, but I don't see that yours here meet that test. Looks like 'spiritual' ideas, right out of the memory-box --unexamined. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > > > > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the > > > > universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. > > > > > > > > there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is what it > > > > is. > > > > > > > > you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you > > > > have > > > > to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. > > > > > > > > accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease to be > > > > bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. > > > > > > > > struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. it has > > > > to carry on its work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As long as you believe that it is you who is looking...........you > > are lost at see. > > > > > > > > > > eventually " you " have to come to peace with " yourself " > > > > > Yes indeed....if you could just find it. > then keep looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > > > > > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >be aware of yourself (ie, your body), as an expression of the > > > > > universe. your pain is its pain. your evolution is its evolution. > > > > > > > > > > there is no sin in existing as a separate mind-body. it is > what it > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > you don't owe suffering to anybody who lived or died for you. you > > > > > have > > > > > to find your own path. you have to find your own peace here. > > > > > > > > > > accept struggle as part of nature. then you will someday cease > to be > > > > > bothered by it. some will call it transcendence. > > > > > > > > > > struggle will not end. your awakening means nothing to Nature. > it has > > > > > to carry on its work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As long as you believe that it is you who is looking...........you > > > are lost at see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eventually " you " have to come to peace with " yourself " > > > > > > > > > > Yes indeed....if you could just find it. > > > > then keep looking. .......using its I-s? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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