The unbeliever

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In a message dated 4/5/05 12:32:23 PM, anders_lindman writes:

 

 

> Al:is it really possible to not worry about the future?

>

P: Yes. I have no future. I used all up.

 

> Al: Maybe you are

> just repressing the future and the worry is still there but hidden (a

> numbed cramp manifested as a physical and psychological

> straightjacket)?

>

P: Represing the future? That's a new one! You're really in trouble.

 

> Are you experiencing a _tremendous_ freedom in you

> actions, what you can do and how to behave?

>

P: Yes! That's easy for me. I'm old, I'm retire. I do want I want,

or want what I do. Death is my future, Al, but that date doesn't

worry me a bit. Think of it this way, death, is the only adventure

the old and the sick are perfectly fit to tackle.

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/5/05 9:23:28 PM, anders_lindman writes:

 

 

> Ram Dass said that he thought that death will be the ultimate LSD

> trip, or something like that. But your mentioning of being old as

> an excuse for feeling liberation only seems like a phony liberation to

> me. With true liberation, _extatic_ freedom, there can simply be no

> personal age.

>

> al.

>

 

P; Al, excuse, is your word. Age is not a sadhanna, but it sure aids

in liberating from desire, and fears. I'm not the first one, to say so,

Confucius recommended no one should try to reach enlightenment

before sixty, and Bernadette Robert has said she has met many

elderly people who seem to have reached a state of union as a result

of being over eighty. Well, I'm only in my late sixties, so too young

to have reached union by natural aging..... just like cheese. )

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/5/05 10:41:07 PM, anders_lindman writes:

 

 

> And like Whiskey! But we can also look at time as nonlinear, i.e.

> the closer time is to the present moment, the more dense/solid it is.

> This means that with this psychological trick, a week one year ago is

> much much shorter than last week. One minute yesterday is much shorter

> than the last minute. The year 2003 is much, much shorter than the

> year 2004. A millenium two thousand years ago is much much shorter

> than last millenium. We can imagine the last second being as long as

> last millenium. Another metaphore is to say that time has weight. The

> weight of the last second is 1.0. The weight of the second before that

> is 0.5 and the second before that is 0.25. The mass center is the

> present moment and around it (past to the left, and future to the

> right) mass decreases rapidly.

>

> The universe is _one_ huge quantum wave function. If there were two

> quantum wave funtions, then there must exist some third function to

> connect these two wave function into the same reality. The one quantum

> wave function is ageless. There is an appearance of aging taking place

> in physical matter, but that's 'just' an appearance. It's all a

> virtual reality simulation. It's all Maya. There is no solid matter.

> Only the present moment is solid, so time is not only a nonlinear

> function; it is Dirac delta function (all mass in the present moment).

>

> al.

>

>

 

P: Rubish! Your head is a rubish bin. And contains not the kind of

rubish one can recycle.

It's not the kind that decays and feeds plants ,either. It's that kind which

pollutes

and poisons the air.