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Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > toombaru Consciousness probably *is* the container. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > al. Consciousness cannot transcend itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:09 AM Re: Brain in a Bottle Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > al. Consciousness cannot transcend itself. toombaru can it find its source? anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > toombaru2004 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:09 AM > Re: Brain in a Bottle > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > al. > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > toombaru > > > > can it find its source? > > anna > > > > > ** > Can a river find its source? toombaru > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:19 AM Re: Brain in a Bottle Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > toombaru2004 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:09 AM > Re: Brain in a Bottle > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > al. > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > toombaru > > > > can it find its source? > > anna > > > > > ** > Can a river find its source? toombaru a river questions not its source a > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > toombaru2004 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:19 AM > Re: Brain in a Bottle > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > toombaru2004 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:09 AM > > Re: Brain in a Bottle > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > can it find its source? > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > ** > > Can a river find its source? > > > > toombaru > > > > a river questions not its source > > a Every " thing " is downstream from its source. Some " things " question their source...some do not. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > al. > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > toombaru According to Ken Wilber, Spirit cannot transcend itself, for it is the ground of all being. However, consciousness, he says, can and does transcend itself. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > According to Ken Wilber, Spirit cannot transcend itself, for it is the > ground of all being. However, consciousness, he says, can and does > transcend itself. > > al. Nothing can transcend itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > According to Ken Wilber, Spirit cannot transcend itself, for it is the > > ground of all being. However, consciousness, he says, can and does > > transcend itself. > > > > al. > > > > Nothing can transcend itself. > > > > toombaru But the illusion of transcending is there, such as homo sapien sapiens, or what we are called, evolving from apes, if that theory is correct, and even if it is not correct, we can see that computer technology, for example, 'evolves'. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 _____ toombaru2004 [cptc] Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:08 PM Nisargadatta Re: Brain in a Bottle Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > According to Ken Wilber, Spirit cannot transcend itself, for it is the > ground of all being. However, consciousness, he says, can and does > transcend itself. > > al. Nothing can transcend itself. toombaru [Clay] .and when it does, transcend itself, I mean, nothing becomes everything. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend its container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness probably *is* the container. > > > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness cannot transcend itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > According to Ken Wilber, Spirit cannot transcend itself, for it is the > > > ground of all being. However, consciousness, he says, can and does > > > transcend itself. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > Nothing can transcend itself. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > But the illusion of transcending is there, such as homo sapien > sapiens, or what we are called, evolving from apes, if that theory is > correct, and even if it is not correct, we can see that computer > technology, for example, 'evolves'. > > al. Every thing changes....evolves.....flows.......moment to moment a river is never the same. An " object " can never be different then it is...... You are always exactly....and only what you are.....You cannot transcend your present circumstances...they will change into your new present circumstances...... your only reality is as you are now. You are always changing......but you can never transcend your what your are. (As you can see....I'm having trouble here.....:-) Perhaps someone more articulate then I... can pick this one up. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 AM You are always changing......but you can never transcend your what your are. Anna: Is-ness (that <Being> all-there-is, as this is, in the right here-ness of Now) (where else could one be?) ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > toombaru2004 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 AM > > > You are always changing......but you can never transcend your what your are. > > > Anna: > > Is-ness > > (that <Being> all-there-is, as this is, in the right here-ness of Now) > > (where else could one be?) ** > I am going to insist that they name my next grandchild....... " Isness " ! toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:25 AM Re: Brain in a Bottle Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > toombaru2004 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 AM > > > You are always changing......but you can never transcend your what your are. > > > Anna: > > Is-ness > > (that <Being> all-there-is, as this is, in the right here-ness of Now) > > (where else could one be?) > > > > > > > ** > I am going to insist that they name my next grandchild....... " Isness " ! toombaru ** why not shorten it to Isis? ) If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > toombaru2004 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:25 AM > Re: Brain in a Bottle > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > toombaru2004 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 AM > > > > > > You are always changing......but you can never transcend your what your are. > > > > > > Anna: > > > > Is-ness > > > > (that <Being> all-there-is, as this is, in the right here-ness of Now) > > > > (where else could one be?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > I am going to insist that they name my next grandchild....... " Isness " ! > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ** > why not shorten it to Isis? > ) > Well............now I'm thinking twins..... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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