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>>Hi ac,

 

>>It seems that " quantum brain " is associated with

Lewis. I have no interest or belief in a quantum brain

beyond the stories of it.

 

>>That article in a very

complicated way said all is quantum stuff and brains

have quantum level receiving and giving ends

(microtubules) so that that quanta can move back and

forth between brains and environment in this way and

this can account for consciousness and perception of

qualia and other stuff.

 

>>It is simply reducing

everything to quanta and showing interaction between

quanta, specifically between a quantum level brain and

everything else. A nice story among many, many others.

 

 

>>The books, journal issue and article given above are

precisely what you seem to be interested in.

 

 

 

Yes. That is very, very good, Lewis !

 

You have explained in a much better,

far simpler, easier and logical way than

what I read in some articles on the web.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

>>Those stories of interest to me because they are about

the production of altered states of consciousness via

brain modules and manipulation of the brain's

plasticity.

 

 

Yes.

These are interesting for sure. Even plausible ...

 

 

 

>>Whether this true or not is of no

importance to me.

 

 

It is certainly important to me and

many, many others.

 

It also has potential to greatly

impact science, psychology, society

everything else.

 

 

[ NNB ]

 

 

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Lewis:

 

The content is more for the story

collection. What is interesting to me is the use of

the stories to support completely opposing views and

the distinctions people make when they speak of it.

 

For example, those going for brain highs and altered

states of consciousness like these stories, studies

because it gives foundation, inspiration, and

direction for attaining temporary or supposedly

permanent states of altered consciousness and samahdis

for whatever purpose they desire.

 

It can become a

confirmation ticket to let it all hang in the brain

without reserve because the doctors say you can get if

you can send or withhold sensation from a brain

region, center or module. No faith required, don't

wait for grace, just massage or do not massage the

lobes.

 

Others, may find this disheartening because all of

their study and efforts towards the Absolute or God or

their deification were really only aimed at massaging

the brain or not massaging it in a way that gives

unique altered conscious experiences, making them

better persons or unique.

 

Seekers, in this light,

become merely self-centered brain stimulators or

manipulators who were following the teachings of

Masters and Messiahs and Prophets who did not know

they were simply and successfully manipulated their

brains (or their brains manipulating them) to achieve

unique states and insights.

 

And that their teachings

and practices (prayer, meditation, infused

contemplation, neti, neti, asceticism, faith, grace,

etc.) amount to no more than scientifically " ignorant "

and not very effective instructions on how to

manipulate the brain to achieve unions, samahdis,

satoris, oceanic feelings of oneness, out of body

experiences, salvation, freedom from suffering and the

whole kit and kaboodle of those states and experiences

offered as lures and candy.

 

So these studies may act as self-deprogramming

materials for those who upon avidly reading them

suddenly find a change in their thinking in light of

the findings that their experiences with God and

Absolutes has been really their " brain on those

concepts and associated teaching and practices. "

Instead of " this is your brain, this is your brain on

drugs, " it is this is your brain, this is your brain

on Self/God/Allah/No-Self/G_d/??? etc.

 

Still others find these experiences as distractions

and slef-seeking not worthy of any attention since

what do these temporary and rarely permanent states

and experiences have to do with living?

 

Others will

see it as a means to scoff at the " religious and

spiritual freaks " who cannot recognize an orange as an

orange but think it that it really is something else

altogther or that all nondualist talk is simply

heavily massaged imbalanced brains talking the talk of

self-induced brain emissions of illusion, Now, Nothing

ever happened, what is, all is dream, I AM, All is

Pure Consciousness, Pure Awreness and other brain

phantasms.

 

Others make money and careers writing about

it and some enjoy reading it and the temporary drama

it creates.

 

What's in your wallet, ac?

 

Lewis

 

 

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--- adithya_comming <adithya_comming wrote:

 

>

>

> >>Hi ac,

>

> >>It seems that " quantum brain " is associated with

> Lewis. I have no interest or belief in a quantum

> brain

> beyond the stories of it.

>

> >>That article in a very

> complicated way said all is quantum stuff and brains

> have quantum level receiving and giving ends

> (microtubules) so that that quanta can move back and

> forth between brains and environment in this way and

> this can account for consciousness and perception of

> qualia and other stuff.

>

> >>It is simply reducing

> everything to quanta and showing interaction between

> quanta, specifically between a quantum level brain

> and

> everything else. A nice story among many, many

> others.

>

>

> >>The books, journal issue and article given above

> are

> precisely what you seem to be interested in.

>

>

>

> Yes. That is very, very good, Lewis !

>

> You have explained in a much better,

> far simpler, easier and logical way than

> what I read in some articles on the web.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

> >>Those stories of interest to me because they are

> about

> the production of altered states of consciousness

> via

> brain modules and manipulation of the brain's

> plasticity.

>

>

> Yes.

> These are interesting for sure. Even plausible ...

>

>

>

> >>Whether this true or not is of no

> importance to me.

>

>

> It is certainly important to me and

> many, many others.

>

> It also has potential to greatly

> impact science, psychology, society

> everything else.

 

 

Lewis: Yes, there is great potential for all sorts of

impacts. Let me ask you this ac and it would

interesting to hear your thoughts and stories on the

following series of questions:

 

What would happen if neurotheology takes hold of the

popular imagination and investors put up big money for

designing, creating and selling devices like the

Shakti for Windows 8 coil Neuromagnetic Signal

Generator for everyday use (which will also be used

for other purposes) and with this development the

development of other sorts of neural stimulators to

produce this and that brain phenomena?

 

If all behavior, interior and exterior, whether true

or not, is seen as brain emergent and genetically

based, what types of psychological, medical and

educational theories and philosophical, ethical,

political systems of thoughts will be developed? What

sort of civil society will emerge based on those

theories that equate the interior life and notions of

free will (true or false) to brain function, genes,

and social conditioning? What sort of laws and

regulations will emerge to cover the social problems

created by the promotion and experience of neural

stimulation of brain states and addictions to altered

states? What effects, besides brain states can or will

occur when stable and unstable brains are stimulated

without corresponding or equal behavior modification?

Who will profit from the enterprise of neural

stimulation and brain control? Who will control the

brain stimulating industry? Who will regulate and

define acceptable and unacceptable brain

states........

 

As in all human creations, we have the potential to go

in all ways imaginable to use this information and

science to develop all sorts of social and

technological techniques and devices to enhance or

otherwise alter living circumstances. Let me hear your

stories story about this.

 

Lewis

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...> wrote:

>

> --- adithya_comming <adithya_comming> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > >>Hi ac,

> >

> > >>It seems that " quantum brain " is associated with

> > Lewis. I have no interest or belief in a quantum

> > brain

> > beyond the stories of it.

> >

> > >>That article in a very

> > complicated way said all is quantum stuff and brains

> > have quantum level receiving and giving ends

> > (microtubules) so that that quanta can move back and

> > forth between brains and environment in this way and

> > this can account for consciousness and perception of

> > qualia and other stuff.

> >

> > >>It is simply reducing

> > everything to quanta and showing interaction between

> > quanta, specifically between a quantum level brain

> > and

> > everything else. A nice story among many, many

> > others.

> >

> >

> > >>The books, journal issue and article given above

> > are

> > precisely what you seem to be interested in.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes. That is very, very good, Lewis !

> >

> > You have explained in a much better,

> > far simpler, easier and logical way than

> > what I read in some articles on the web.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> > >>Those stories of interest to me because they are

> > about

> > the production of altered states of consciousness

> > via

> > brain modules and manipulation of the brain's

> > plasticity.

> >

> >

> > Yes.

> > These are interesting for sure. Even plausible ...

> >

> >

> >

> > >>Whether this true or not is of no

> > importance to me.

> >

> >

> > It is certainly important to me and

> > many, many others.

> >

> > It also has potential to greatly

> > impact science, psychology, society

> > everything else.

>

>

> Lewis: Yes, there is great potential for all sorts of

> impacts. Let me ask you this ac and it would

> interesting to hear your thoughts and stories on the

> following series of questions:

>

> What would happen if neurotheology takes hold of the

> popular imagination and investors put up big money for

> designing, creating and selling devices like the

> Shakti for Windows 8 coil Neuromagnetic Signal

> Generator for everyday use (which will also be used

> for other purposes) and with this development the

> development of other sorts of neural stimulators to

> produce this and that brain phenomena?

 

 

I don't see such instruments as any major

threat, disturbance or something very bad.

 

 

In fact, one thing, I am greatly wondering

is how it would impact people:

 

---------if they knew that they receive

and transmit quantum brain signals profusely

even when they are not aware of it.

 

That is, that they receive and transmit it

in great quantity even when they are NOT

....speaking, hearing or talking.

 

 

How would it impact their choice of

environments, company, gathering,

group, friends, atmosphere, settings ?

 

 

Once they fully understand that the

quantum brain signal traverse easily

even without talking,

....then, perhaps, it would become

much easier and simpler for them

to understand:

 

---- why they automatically feel joyous

around happy playing children.

 

--- why they automatically feel peaceful

relaxed, safe and quiet around some people.

 

--- why they automatically feel loved

around some people.

 

---- same goes for many places too

....such as ocean, deep woods,

mountains, lake, garden, ...temple.

 

Mental hospitals, battlegrounds

and burial grounds.

 

 

They would also understand,

why they automatically feel

agitated, tense or even ...angry,

sad or fearful around certain People.

 

 

....and, that might Greatly impact

their social choices.

 

That might also mean that they

will feel need to be more aware

and conscious of what they think

and talk inward when they are around

their kids, spouse or other loved ones.

 

Because, they will know that they are

transmitting it and ...kids, spouse, friends

are Automatically receiving it !

 

 

With warm regards,

ac.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> If all behavior, interior and exterior, whether true

> or not, is seen as brain emergent and genetically

> based, what types of psychological, medical and

> educational theories and philosophical, ethical,

> political systems of thoughts will be developed? What

> sort of civil society will emerge based on those

> theories that equate the interior life and notions of

> free will (true or false) to brain function, genes,

> and social conditioning? What sort of laws and

> regulations will emerge to cover the social problems

> created by the promotion and experience of neural

> stimulation of brain states and addictions to altered

> states? What effects, besides brain states can or will

> occur when stable and unstable brains are stimulated

> without corresponding or equal behavior modification?

> Who will profit from the enterprise of neural

> stimulation and brain control? Who will control the

> brain stimulating industry? Who will regulate and

> define acceptable and unacceptable brain

> states........

>

> As in all human creations, we have the potential to go

> in all ways imaginable to use this information and

> science to develop all sorts of social and

> technological techniques and devices to enhance or

> otherwise alter living circumstances. Let me hear your

> stories story about this.

>

> Lewis

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Messenger

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess <lbb10@c...>

wrote:

> >

> > --- adithya_comming <adithya_comming> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>Hi ac,

> > >

> > > >>It seems that " quantum brain " is associated with

> > > Lewis. I have no interest or belief in a quantum

> > > brain

> > > beyond the stories of it.

> > >

> > > >>That article in a very

> > > complicated way said all is quantum stuff and brains

> > > have quantum level receiving and giving ends

> > > (microtubules) so that that quanta can move back and

> > > forth between brains and environment in this way and

> > > this can account for consciousness and perception of

> > > qualia and other stuff.

> > >

> > > >>It is simply reducing

> > > everything to quanta and showing interaction between

> > > quanta, specifically between a quantum level brain

> > > and

> > > everything else. A nice story among many, many

> > > others.

> > >

> > >

> > > >>The books, journal issue and article given above

> > > are

> > > precisely what you seem to be interested in.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes. That is very, very good, Lewis !

> > >

> > > You have explained in a much better,

> > > far simpler, easier and logical way than

> > > what I read in some articles on the web.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>Those stories of interest to me because they are

> > > about

> > > the production of altered states of consciousness

> > > via

> > > brain modules and manipulation of the brain's

> > > plasticity.

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > > These are interesting for sure. Even plausible ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>Whether this true or not is of no

> > > importance to me.

> > >

> > >

> > > It is certainly important to me and

> > > many, many others.

> > >

> > > It also has potential to greatly

> > > impact science, psychology, society

> > > everything else.

> >

> >

> > Lewis: Yes, there is great potential for all sorts of

> > impacts. Let me ask you this ac and it would

> > interesting to hear your thoughts and stories on the

> > following series of questions:

> >

> > What would happen if neurotheology takes hold of the

> > popular imagination and investors put up big money for

> > designing, creating and selling devices like the

> > Shakti for Windows 8 coil Neuromagnetic Signal

> > Generator for everyday use (which will also be used

> > for other purposes) and with this development the

> > development of other sorts of neural stimulators to

> > produce this and that brain phenomena?

>

>

> I don't see such instruments as any major

> threat, disturbance or something very bad.

 

 

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Abundance of many mental / brain

simulation toys might work

the same way as the great abundance of

wide verities SEX toys and genital simulator

toys has.

 

i.e. it has not really reduced the `real',

`original', `old', `natural' way of sexual

intercourse and related activities such

as courtship, dating, one night stand,

marriage, prostitution ...

 

....it has merely given One More Way

to some people !

 

***************************************

 

 

>

>

> In fact, one thing, I am greatly wondering

> is how it would impact people:

>

> ---------if they knew that they receive

> and transmit quantum brain signals profusely

> even when they are not aware of it.

>

> That is, that they receive and transmit it

> in great quantity even when they are NOT

> ...speaking, hearing or talking.

>

>

> How would it impact their choice of

> environments, company, gathering,

> group, friends, atmosphere, settings ?

>

>

> Once they fully understand that the

> quantum brain signal traverse easily

> even without talking,

> ...then, perhaps, it would become

> much easier and simpler for them

> to understand:

>

> ---- why they automatically feel joyous

> around happy playing children.

>

> --- why they automatically feel peaceful

> relaxed, safe and quiet around some people.

>

> --- why they automatically feel loved

> around some people.

>

> ---- same goes for many places too

> ...such as ocean, deep woods,

> mountains, lake, garden, ...temple.

>

> Mental hospitals, battlegrounds

> and burial grounds.

>

>

> They would also understand,

> why they automatically feel

> agitated, tense or even ...angry,

> sad or fearful around certain People.

>

>

> ...and, that might Greatly impact

> their social choices.

>

> That might also mean that they

> will feel need to be more aware

> and conscious of what they think

> and talk inward when they are around

> their kids, spouse or other loved ones.

>

> Because, they will know that they are

> transmitting it and ...kids, spouse, friends

> are Automatically receiving it !

>

>

> With warm regards,

> ac.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > If all behavior, interior and exterior, whether true

> > or not, is seen as brain emergent and genetically

> > based, what types of psychological, medical and

> > educational theories and philosophical, ethical,

> > political systems of thoughts will be developed? What

> > sort of civil society will emerge based on those

> > theories that equate the interior life and notions of

> > free will (true or false) to brain function, genes,

> > and social conditioning? What sort of laws and

> > regulations will emerge to cover the social problems

> > created by the promotion and experience of neural

> > stimulation of brain states and addictions to altered

> > states? What effects, besides brain states can or will

> > occur when stable and unstable brains are stimulated

> > without corresponding or equal behavior modification?

> > Who will profit from the enterprise of neural

> > stimulation and brain control? Who will control the

> > brain stimulating industry? Who will regulate and

> > define acceptable and unacceptable brain

> > states........

> >

> > As in all human creations, we have the potential to go

> > in all ways imaginable to use this information and

> > science to develop all sorts of social and

> > technological techniques and devices to enhance or

> > otherwise alter living circumstances. Let me hear your

> > stories story about this.

> >

> > Lewis

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Messenger

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Thank you ac. I understand. Knowing or not knowing,

believing or not believing in the transference will

make little difference or no difference in altering

the manner in which the world is conceived. There is

another dynamic that allows and disallows the dream

hoped for.

 

Lewis

 

 

 

--- adithya_comming <adithya_comming wrote:

 

>

>

> Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess

> <lbb10@c...> wrote:

> >

> > --- adithya_comming <adithya_comming> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>Hi ac,

> > >

> > > >>It seems that " quantum brain " is associated

> with

> > > Lewis. I have no interest or belief in a quantum

> > > brain

> > > beyond the stories of it.

> > >

> > > >>That article in a very

> > > complicated way said all is quantum stuff and

> brains

> > > have quantum level receiving and giving ends

> > > (microtubules) so that that quanta can move back

> and

> > > forth between brains and environment in this way

> and

> > > this can account for consciousness and

> perception of

> > > qualia and other stuff.

> > >

> > > >>It is simply reducing

> > > everything to quanta and showing interaction

> between

> > > quanta, specifically between a quantum level

> brain

> > > and

> > > everything else. A nice story among many, many

> > > others.

> > >

> > >

> > > >>The books, journal issue and article given

> above

> > > are

> > > precisely what you seem to be interested in.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes. That is very, very good, Lewis !

> > >

> > > You have explained in a much better,

> > > far simpler, easier and logical way than

> > > what I read in some articles on the web.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>Those stories of interest to me because they

> are

> > > about

> > > the production of altered states of

> consciousness

> > > via

> > > brain modules and manipulation of the brain's

> > > plasticity.

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > > These are interesting for sure. Even plausible

> ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>Whether this true or not is of no

> > > importance to me.

> > >

> > >

> > > It is certainly important to me and

> > > many, many others.

> > >

> > > It also has potential to greatly

> > > impact science, psychology, society

> > > everything else.

> >

> >

> > Lewis: Yes, there is great potential for all sorts

> of

> > impacts. Let me ask you this ac and it would

> > interesting to hear your thoughts and stories on

> the

> > following series of questions:

> >

> > What would happen if neurotheology takes hold of

> the

> > popular imagination and investors put up big money

> for

> > designing, creating and selling devices like the

> > Shakti for Windows 8 coil Neuromagnetic Signal

> > Generator for everyday use (which will also be

> used

> > for other purposes) and with this development the

> > development of other sorts of neural stimulators

> to

> > produce this and that brain phenomena?

>

>

> I don't see such instruments as any major

> threat, disturbance or something very bad.

>

>

> In fact, one thing, I am greatly wondering

> is how it would impact people:

>

> ---------if they knew that they receive

> and transmit quantum brain signals profusely

> even when they are not aware of it.

>

> That is, that they receive and transmit it

> in great quantity even when they are NOT

> ...speaking, hearing or talking.

>

>

> How would it impact their choice of

> environments, company, gathering,

> group, friends, atmosphere, settings ?

>

>

> Once they fully understand that the

> quantum brain signal traverse easily

> even without talking,

> ...then, perhaps, it would become

> much easier and simpler for them

> to understand:

>

> ---- why they automatically feel joyous

> around happy playing children.

>

> --- why they automatically feel peaceful

> relaxed, safe and quiet around some people.

>

> --- why they automatically feel loved

> around some people.

>

> ---- same goes for many places too

> ...such as ocean, deep woods,

> mountains, lake, garden, ...temple.

>

> Mental hospitals, battlegrounds

> and burial grounds.

>

>

> They would also understand,

> why they automatically feel

> agitated, tense or even ...angry,

> sad or fearful around certain People.

>

>

> ...and, that might Greatly impact

> their social choices.

>

> That might also mean that they

> will feel need to be more aware

> and conscious of what they think

> and talk inward when they are around

> their kids, spouse or other loved ones.

>

> Because, they will know that they are

> transmitting it and ...kids, spouse, friends

> are Automatically receiving it !

>

>

> With warm regards,

> ac.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > If all behavior, interior and exterior, whether

> true

> > or not, is seen as brain emergent and genetically

> > based, what types of psychological, medical and

> > educational theories and philosophical, ethical,

> > political systems of thoughts will be developed?

> What

> > sort of civil society will emerge based on those

> > theories that equate the interior life and notions

> of

> > free will (true or false) to brain function,

> genes,

> > and social conditioning? What sort of laws and

> > regulations will emerge to cover the social

> problems

> > created by the promotion and experience of neural

> > stimulation of brain states and addictions to

> altered

> > states? What effects, besides brain states can or

> will

> > occur when stable and unstable brains are

> stimulated

> > without corresponding or equal behavior

> modification?

> > Who will profit from the enterprise of neural

> > stimulation and brain control? Who will control

> the

> > brain stimulating industry? Who will regulate and

> > define acceptable and unacceptable brain

> > states........

> >

> > As in all human creations, we have the potential

> to go

> > in all ways imaginable to use this information and

> > science to develop all sorts of social and

> > technological techniques and devices to enhance or

> > otherwise alter living circumstances. Let me hear

> your

> > stories story about this.

> >

> > Lewis

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Messenger

> > Show us what our next emoticon should look like.

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>

> Nisargadatta ,

> " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Lewis Burgess

> <lbb10@c...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > --- adithya_comming <adithya_comming>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >>Hi ac,

> > > >

> > > > >>It seems that " quantum brain " is associated

> with

> > > > Lewis. I have no interest or belief in a

> quantum

> > > > brain

> > > > beyond the stories of it.

> > > >

> > > > >>That article in a very

> > > > complicated way said all is quantum stuff and

> brains

> > > > have quantum level receiving and giving ends

> > > > (microtubules) so that that quanta can move

> back and

> > > > forth between brains and environment in this

> way and

> > > > this can account for consciousness and

> perception of

> > > > qualia and other stuff.

> > > >

> > > > >>It is simply reducing

> > > > everything to quanta and showing interaction

> between

> > > > quanta, specifically between a quantum level

> brain

> > > > and

> > > > everything else. A nice story among many, many

> > > > others.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >>The books, journal issue and article given

> above

> > > > are

> > > > precisely what you seem to be interested in.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes. That is very, very good, Lewis !

> > > >

> > > > You have explained in a much better,

> > > > far simpler, easier and logical way than

> > > > what I read in some articles on the web.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >>Those stories of interest to me because they

> are

> > > > about

> > > > the production of altered states of

> consciousness

> > > > via

> > > > brain modules and manipulation of the brain's

> > > > plasticity.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes.

> > > > These are interesting for sure. Even plausible

> ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >>Whether this true or not is of no

> > > > importance to me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is certainly important to me and

> > > > many, many others.

> > > >

> > > > It also has potential to greatly

> > > > impact science, psychology, society

> > > > everything else.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lewis: Yes, there is great potential for all

> sorts of

> > > impacts. Let me ask you this ac and it would

> > > interesting to hear your thoughts and stories on

> the

> > > following series of questions:

> > >

> > > What would happen if neurotheology takes hold of

> the

> > > popular imagination and investors put up big

> money for

> > > designing, creating and selling devices like the

> > > Shakti for Windows 8 coil Neuromagnetic Signal

> > > Generator for everyday use (which will also be

> used

> > > for other purposes) and with this development

> the

> > > development of other sorts of neural stimulators

> to

> > > produce this and that brain phenomena?

> >

> >

> > I don't see such instruments as any major

> > threat, disturbance or something very bad.

>

>

> ****************************************

>

> Abundance of many mental / brain

> simulation toys might work

> the same way as the great abundance of

> wide verities SEX toys and genital simulator

> toys has.

>

> i.e. it has not really reduced the `real',

> `original', `old', `natural' way of sexual

> intercourse and related activities such

> as courtship, dating, one night stand,

> marriage, prostitution ...

>

> ...it has merely given One More Way

> to some people !

>

> ***************************************

 

That would seem to be one outcome ac and there are

many other possible outcomes. Please do not read

negativity into the questions. There is no opposition

or vision of the badness or goodness of neuroscicne,

neurotheology and neural stimulation. I presented the

questions to see your take on it. There are many

different ways this can go as there are different

people on the earth. The answers provided tell about

one version you presented about possible outcomes. You

may have other versions or you may not.

 

Lewis

 

 

 

>

>

> >

> >

> > In fact, one thing, I am greatly wondering

> > is how it would impact people:

> >

> > ---------if they knew that they receive

> > and transmit quantum brain signals profusely

> > even when they are not aware of it.

> >

> > That is, that they receive and transmit it

> > in great quantity even when they are NOT

> > ...speaking, hearing or talking.

> >

> >

> > How would it impact their choice of

> > environments, company, gathering,

> > group, friends, atmosphere, settings ?

> >

> >

> > Once they fully understand that the

> > quantum brain signal traverse easily

> > even without talking,

> > ...then, perhaps, it would become

> > much easier and simpler for them

> > to understand:

> >

> > ---- why they automatically feel joyous

> > around happy playing children.

> >

> > --- why they automatically feel peaceful

> > relaxed, safe and quiet around some people.

> >

> > --- why they automatically feel loved

> > around some people.

> >

> > ---- same goes for many places too

> > ...such as ocean, deep woods,

> > mountains, lake, garden, ...temple.

> >

> > Mental hospitals, battlegrounds

> > and burial grounds.

> >

> >

> > They would also understand,

> > why they automatically feel

> > agitated, tense or even ...angry,

> > sad or fearful around certain People.

> >

> >

> > ...and, that might Greatly impact

> > their social choices.

> >

> > That might also mean that they

> > will feel need to be more aware

> > and conscious of what they think

> > and talk inward when they are around

> > their kids, spouse or other loved ones.

> >

> > Because, they will know that they are

> > transmitting it and ...kids, spouse, friends

> > are Automatically receiving it !

> >

> >

> > With warm regards,

> > ac.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > If all behavior, interior and exterior, whether

> true

> > > or not, is seen as brain emergent and

> genetically

> > > based, what types of psychological, medical and

> > > educational theories and philosophical, ethical,

> > > political systems of thoughts will be developed?

> What

> > > sort of civil society will emerge based on those

> > > theories that equate the interior life and

> notions of

> > > free will (true or false) to brain function,

> genes,

> > > and social conditioning? What sort of laws and

> > > regulations will emerge to cover the social

> problems

> > > created by the promotion and experience of

> neural

> > > stimulation of brain states and addictions to

> altered

> > > states? What effects, besides brain states can

> or will

> > > occur when stable and unstable brains are

> stimulated

> > > without corresponding or equal behavior

> modification?

> > > Who will profit from the enterprise of neural

> > > stimulation and brain control? Who will control

> the

> > > brain stimulating industry? Who will regulate

> and

> > > define acceptable and unacceptable brain

> > > states........

> > >

> > > As in all human creations, we have the potential

> to go

> > > in all ways imaginable to use this information

> and

> > > science to develop all sorts of social and

> > > technological techniques and devices to enhance

> or

> > > otherwise alter living circumstances. Let me

> hear your

> > > stories story about this.

> > >

> > > Lewis

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Messenger

> > > Show us what our next emoticon should look like.

> Join the fun.

> > >

> http://www.advision.webevents./emoticontest

>

>

>

>

>

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