Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due to investing in activity to maintain me and my involvments, the positive and negative involvements that reflect and continue me. Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, the resistance to silence is activity to maintain me as center. Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does construct a misunderstanding that something is in existence, going in and out of states of being and awareness, and its efforts giving it more or less security, more or less validation. This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of something one does or doesn't do. It never has not been the case, and never had anything leave it, to go in and out of existence and states of being. It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or being, has no location, is boundless, yet without the qualities of existing or not existing, being or not being. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Beautiful! The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due to investing in activity to maintain me and my involvments, the positive and negative involvements that reflect and continue me. Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, the resistance to silence is activity to maintain me as center. Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does construct a misunderstanding that something is in existence, going in and out of states of being and awareness, and its efforts giving it more or less security, more or less validation. This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of something one does or doesn't do. It never has not been the case, and never had anything leave it, to go in and out of existence and states of being. It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or being, has no location, is boundless, yet without the qualities of existing or not existing, being or not being. -- Dan ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due > to investing in activity to maintain me > and my involvments, the positive and negative > involvements that reflect and continue me. > > Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, > the resistance to silence is activity to maintain > me as center. > > Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does > construct a misunderstanding that something is > in existence, going in and out of states of > being and awareness, and its efforts giving > it more or less security, more or less validation. > > This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of > something one does or doesn't do. > > It never has not been the case, and never had anything > leave it, to go in and out of existence and states > of being. > > It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or > being, has no location, is boundless, yet without > the qualities of existing or not existing, being > or not being. > > -- Dan I would love to have silence and peace as my default state and then from that state I can spring into action if I so choose. I imagine feeling very nice inside me, like warm honey inside the body, and then if I want to I can do things from that state, but there would be no nervous craving, no fear or hatred. Just a very relaxed state that is also full of energy. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Anders wrote, " I would love to have silence and peace as my default state and then from that state I can spring into action if I so choose. I imagine feeling very nice inside me, like warm honey inside the body, and then if I want to I can do things from that state, but there would be no nervous craving, no fear or hatred. Just a very relaxed state that is also full of energy. " Silence and Peace IS the " Default State " yours, mine everyone's right here right now. " What is wrong with right now if you don' t think about it??? " ('Sailor' Bob Adamson) ... all the thoughts, feelings, notions, memories, associations, perceptions appear IN and ON that AS that in Play .... " Understanding is All " ~ Maharaj You ARE that. The denial of that is also That. The acceptance or denial is a play happening AS that playing with its Self .... when this is seen the suffering is gone forever and all there is, is THAT which Knows right now that you ARE. Liberation is NOT an experience. What comes and goes... thoughts, feelings etc ... can NEVER be That which is the Unknowable Knower of all that is ... THAT is The Eternal. Have a look at some of the texts on www.awakeningtotheeternal.net if you feel like it. Love, Charlie Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due > to investing in activity to maintain me > and my involvments, the positive and negative > involvements that reflect and continue me. > > Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, > the resistance to silence is activity to maintain > me as center. > > Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does > construct a misunderstanding that something is > in existence, going in and out of states of > being and awareness, and its efforts giving > it more or less security, more or less validation. > > This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of > something one does or doesn't do. > > It never has not been the case, and never had anything > leave it, to go in and out of existence and states > of being. > > It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or > being, has no location, is boundless, yet without > the qualities of existing or not existing, being > or not being. > > -- Dan ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Charlie Hayes " <awakenow@e...> wrote: > Anders wrote, " I would love to have silence and peace as my default state > and then > from that state I can spring into action if I so choose. I imagine > feeling very nice inside me, like warm honey inside the body, and then > if I want to I can do things from that state, but there would be no > nervous craving, no fear or hatred. Just a very relaxed state that is > also full of energy. " > > Silence and Peace IS the " Default State " yours, mine everyone's right here > right now. " What is wrong with right now if you don' t think about it??? " > ('Sailor' Bob Adamson) ... all the thoughts, feelings, notions, memories, > associations, perceptions appear IN and ON that AS that in Play .... > > " Understanding is All " ~ Maharaj > > You ARE that. The denial of that is also That. The acceptance or denial is a > play happening AS that playing with its Self .... when this is seen the > suffering is gone forever and all there is, is THAT which Knows right now > that you ARE. > > Liberation is NOT an experience. What comes and goes... thoughts, feelings > etc ... can NEVER be That which is the Unknowable Knower of all that is ... > THAT is The Eternal. > > Have a look at some of the texts on www.awakeningtotheeternal.net if you > feel like it. > > Love, > Charlie I have a strange feeling that one can actually observe oneself as being a nervous vibration around the now. When I am lost in the vibration then I am all shaky and jittery, but when I observe this shakiness from this moment, from this unperturbed now, as if the now was a solid transparent object, then there is a kind of liberation taking place. al. Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > > > The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due > > to investing in activity to maintain me > > and my involvments, the positive and negative > > involvements that reflect and continue me. > > > > Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, > > the resistance to silence is activity to maintain > > me as center. > > > > Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does > > construct a misunderstanding that something is > > in existence, going in and out of states of > > being and awareness, and its efforts giving > > it more or less security, more or less validation. > > > > This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of > > something one does or doesn't do. > > > > It never has not been the case, and never had anything > > leave it, to go in and out of existence and states > > of being. > > > > It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or > > being, has no location, is boundless, yet without > > the qualities of existing or not existing, being > > or not being. > > > > -- Dan > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta > group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 In a message dated 4/14/05 7:41:15 AM, dan330033 writes: P: Grreat stuff! An you wrote that unproked by a previous posting! Will wonder never cease! Is that a first? > The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due > to investing in activity to maintain me > and my involvments, the positive and negative > involvements that reflect and continue me. > > Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, > the resistance to silence is activity to maintain > me as center. > > Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does > construct a misunderstanding that something is > in existence, going in and out of states of > being and awareness, and its efforts giving > it more or less security, more or less validation. > > This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of > something one does or doesn't do. > > It never has not been the case, and never had anything > leave it, to go in and out of existence and states > of being. > > It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or > being, has no location, is boundless, yet without > the qualities of existing or not existing, being > or not being. > > -- Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 In a message dated 4/14/05 8:04:06 AM, anders_lindman writes: > I would love to have silence and peace as my default state and then > from that state I can spring into action if I so choose. I imagine > feeling very nice inside me, like warm honey inside the body, and then > if I want to I can do things from that state, but there would be no > nervous craving, no fear or hatred. Just a very relaxed state that is > also full of energy. > > al. > You want to be...................................................................... a bee. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 - Pedsie2 Nisargadatta Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:38 PM Re: Re: Silence In a message dated 4/14/05 8:04:06 AM, anders_lindman writes: > I would love to have silence and peace as my default state and then > from that state I can spring into action if I so choose. I imagine > feeling very nice inside me, like warm honey inside the body, and then > if I want to I can do things from that state, but there would be no > nervous craving, no fear or hatred. Just a very relaxed state that is > also full of energy. > > al. > You want to be...................................................................... a bee. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 lovely. very beautiful and clear thanks Love, charlie www.awakeningtotheeternal.net > The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due > to investing in activity to maintain me > and my involvments, the positive and negative > involvements that reflect and continue me. > > Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, > the resistance to silence is activity to maintain > me as center. > > Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does > construct a misunderstanding that something is > in existence, going in and out of states of > being and awareness, and its efforts giving > it more or less security, more or less validation. > > This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of > something one does or doesn't do. > > It never has not been the case, and never had anything > leave it, to go in and out of existence and states > of being. > > It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or > being, has no location, is boundless, yet without > the qualities of existing or not existing, being > or not being. > > -- Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Charlie Hayes " <awakenow@e...> wrote: > lovely. > very beautiful and clear > thanks > Indeed. Dan, What was experienced as this was bubbling up? Do you feel like it came through a fissure......opened up by something you read earlier? Was it there all the time? Is there an understanding in yourself about what it means? I am not being critical...I really like what was said......just want your impressions on where it came from. thanks toombaru > > > The undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due > > to investing in activity to maintain me > > and my involvments, the positive and negative > > involvements that reflect and continue me. > > > > Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, > > the resistance to silence is activity to maintain > > me as center. > > > > Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does > > construct a misunderstanding that something is > > in existence, going in and out of states of > > being and awareness, and its efforts giving > > it more or less security, more or less validation. > > > > This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of > > something one does or doesn't do. > > > > It never has not been the case, and never had anything > > leave it, to go in and out of existence and states > > of being. > > > > It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or > > being, has no location, is boundless, yet without > > the qualities of existing or not existing, being > > or not being. > > > > -- Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 >In a message dated 4/14/05 7:41:15 AM, dan330033 writes: >the undisturbed silence isn't noticed - only due >to investing in activity to maintain me >and my involvments, the positive and negative >involvements that reflect and continue me. Positive, negative... is such classification of any meaning for you? And would not notification of undisturbed silence also be involvement. >Essentially, that investment is psychological anxiety, >the resistance to silence is activity to maintain >me as center. Is not resistance the nature of anything existent? If undisturbed silence would be part of existence it would be itself resistant. But when it is not part of existence... then it anyway cannnot be resisted. So, why bother about psychological anxiety... >Me-activity doesn't disturb silence, but it does >construct a misunderstanding that something is >in existence, going in and out of states of >being and awareness, and its efforts giving >it more or less security, more or less validation. Yes, the misunderstanding is that there is anything that is misunderstood. >This stillness isn't produced, isn't the result of >something one does or doesn't do. >It never has not been the case, and never had anything >leave it, to go in and out of existence and states >of being. Yes. >It is not an inward stillness possessed by a person or >being, has no location, is boundless, yet without >the qualities of existing or not existing, being >or not being. Yes, no need to search it, No way to define it :-) Is it, was it, can it be... experienced? Love Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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