Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta (from " I am That " ) I am now 74 years old. And yet I feel that I am an infant. I feel clearly that in spite of all the changes I am a child. My Guru told me: that child, which is you even now, is your real self (swarupa). Go back to that state of pure being, where the 'I am' is still in its purity before it got contaminated with 'this I am' or 'that I am'. Your burden is of false self-identifications -- abandon them all. My Guru told me -- 'Trust me. I tell you; you are divine. Take it as the absolute truth. Your joy is divine, your suffering is divine too. All comes from God. Remember it always. You are God, your will alone is done'. I did believe him and soon realised how wonderfully true and accurate were his words. I did not condition my mind by thinking: 'I am God, I am wonderful, I am beyond'. I simply followed his instruction which was to focus the mind on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours together, with, nothing but the 'I am' in my mind and soon peace and joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta (from " I am That " ) > > You are God, your will alone is done'. I did believe him and soon realised how wonderfully true and accurate were his words. I did not condition my mind by thinking: 'I am God, I am wonderful, I am beyond'. I simply followed his instruction which was to focus the mind on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. sam: there are those on this list who refute this, saying they are dual and separate from 'god'. The source Is/Serves the dual state, so it's all good - all part of the dream time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta (from " I am That " ) > > > > You are God, your will alone is done'. I did believe him and soon > realised how wonderfully true and accurate were his words. I did not > condition my mind by thinking: 'I am God, I am wonderful, I am > beyond'. I simply followed his instruction which was to focus the mind > on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. > > sam: there are those on this list who refute this, saying they are > dual and separate from 'god'. There in no one here saying anything..... toombaru The source Is/Serves the dual state, so > it's all good - all part of the dream time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > There in no one here saying anything..... toombaru sam: Hahahahahah! There is only you, you big non-you ! A not-so-clever trick to perpetuate the dualistic thought process, by going back to the fact that none of it is existent. Yes, it's not real. Yes, it's a dream. Whata's your point. My cat is dying and lays in my arms as I type. Is it real? No. Are the tears that fall from my eyes real right now real? No. Is there a point? Rather than debating the real/non-real endless debate can you debate if there is a point? Your debate takes you into the perpetual dualism becuz if you got into the point (which you insist no one can know) this toombaru would die/change/rearrange into something [that would be just as non.]Your words only serve to perpetuate that which you claim is not 'real'. signing off now, going to kiss a non-cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > There in no one here saying anything..... > > > toombaru Sounds like somebody's in denial. You never responded to my last post to you (#22140). Is that because you don't exist? fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Hi, Stefan: I don't think it gets much plainer than that. Here's another: " Know yourself to be the changeless witness of the changeful mind. That is enough. " Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj Thanks. fuzzie Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta (from " I am That " ) > > I am now 74 years old. And yet I feel that I am an infant. I feel > clearly that in spite of all the changes I am a child. My Guru told > me: that child, which is you even now, is your real self (swarupa). Go > back to that state of pure being, where the 'I am' is still in its > purity before it got contaminated with 'this I am' or 'that I am'. > Your burden is of false self-identifications -- abandon them all. My > Guru told me -- 'Trust me. I tell you; you are divine. Take it as the > absolute truth. Your joy is divine, your suffering is divine too. All > comes from God. Remember it always. You are God, your will alone is > done'. I did believe him and soon realised how wonderfully true and > accurate were his words. I did not condition my mind by thinking: 'I > am God, I am wonderful, I am beyond'. I simply followed his > instruction which was to focus the mind on pure being 'I am', and stay > in it. I used to sit for hours together, with, nothing but the 'I am' > in my mind and soon peace and joy and a deep all-embracing love became > my normal state. In it all disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I > lived, the world around me. Only peace remained and unfathomable > silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Hi, Stefan: > > I don't think it gets much plainer than that. Here's another: > > " Know yourself to be the changeless witness of the changeful mind. > That is enough. " > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > Thanks. > > fuzzie > sam: fuzzie, thanx for the reminder. yes, that is enough. . . [she said while peering through the ebb and flow of tears swimming in her eyes...as the thought of a 17 yr old cat I called friend, who snuggled at my head each night, says goodbye.] Laughing through the tears. Love, that's my sweet addiction. Love for? _________ the potentiality, the dream. - like toombarus addiction to meat - his love for meat - so I too confuse love for addiction to the love dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 In a message dated 4/16/05 4:55:01 PM, cptc writes: > There is existence...but no one exists. > > > toombaru > > P: Correct! And you said that very nicely, you, devilish, non-existent, typeholic, little entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > There in no one here saying anything..... > > > > > > toombaru > > > Sounds like somebody's in denial. > > You never responded to my last post to you (#22140). Is that because > you don't exist? > > > > fuzzie There is existence...but no one exists. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> > wrote: > > > > Hi, Stefan: > > > > I don't think it gets much plainer than that. Here's another: > > > > " Know yourself to be the changeless witness of the changeful mind. > > That is enough. " > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > fuzzie > > > > > sam: fuzzie, thanx for the reminder. yes, that is enough. . . [she > said while peering through the ebb and flow of tears swimming in > her eyes...as the thought of a 17 yr old cat I called friend, who > snuggled at my head each night, says goodbye.] > Laughing through the tears. > Love, that's my sweet addiction. Love for? _________ the > potentiality, the dream. > - like toombarus addiction to meat - his love for meat - so I too > confuse love for addiction to the love dream. Within the cat-shaped.......empty aching...is a door into the fullness. Tears will make this gift disappear....but it will return again and again......until you take it inside. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 4/16/05 4:55:01 PM, cptc@w... writes: > > > > There is existence...but no one exists. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > P: Correct! And you said that very nicely, you, devilish, non-existent, > typeholic, little entity. > > Pete, Whatever was said... did not originate from within an autonomous entity. It was....and continues to be... the only available reactional response that could have occured. Talking heads Pete.....just talikng heads. This is experienced.....or not. If you ever become aware of This.......... " Your " world will evaporate..... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 In a message dated 4/16/05 10:50:34 PM, cptc writes: > Pete, > > Whatever was said... did not originate from within an autonomous entity. > > It was....and continues to be... the only available reactional response that > could have occured. > > Talking heads Pete.....just talikng heads. > > > > This is experienced.....or not. > > If you ever become aware of This.......... " Your " world will evaporate.... > P: Now you blew it! See why I wrote typeholic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 4/16/05 10:50:34 PM, cptc@w... writes: > > > > Pete, > > > > Whatever was said... did not originate from within an autonomous entity. > > > > It was....and continues to be... the only available reactional response that > > could have occured. > > > > Talking heads Pete.....just talikng heads. > > > > > > > > This is experienced.....or not. > > > > If you ever become aware of This.......... " Your " world will evaporate.... > > > > P: Now you blew it! See why I wrote typeholic! > > Oh Pete. " You " did not write anything. Writing happens.....within the edgeless flow.....a " youness " emerges....from within the writing....sparkles for a while....in its own memory.....and then evaporates.....back into the river. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> > wrote: > > > > Hi, Stefan: > > > > I don't think it gets much plainer than that. Here's another: > > > > " Know yourself to be the changeless witness of the changeful mind. > > That is enough. " > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > fuzzie > > > > > sam: fuzzie, thanx for the reminder. yes, that is enough. . . [she > said while peering through the ebb and flow of tears swimming in > her eyes...as the thought of a 17 yr old cat I called friend, who > snuggled at my head each night, says goodbye.] > Laughing through the tears. > Love, that's my sweet addiction. Love for? _________ the > potentiality, the dream. > - like toombarus addiction to meat - his love for meat - so I too > confuse love for addiction to the love dream. Dear Sam: The love you feel for " friend " is the Self expression of love itself. All is love. Your " friend " is not going anywhere. She may be shedding this flesh-bound vessel, but, the love is unchanged, unmoved. In the I AM awareness, you and " friend " have never been apart, can never be apart. Consider yourself blessed to have had a friend like that. She is showing you the Way (she is Guru). Those tears are perfectly natural. My own eyes are watering from reading your post. Let it be. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There in no one here saying anything..... > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Sounds like somebody's in denial. > > > > You never responded to my last post to you (#22140). Is that because > > you don't exist? > > > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > There is existence...but no one exists. > > > toombaru I AM. fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 > > I AM. > > > > fuzzie You think you are. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > I AM. > > > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > > You think you are. > > > toombaru You think I'm not. What's the difference? fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I AM. > > > > > > > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > > > > > > > You think you are. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > You think I'm not. > > What's the difference? > > > > fuzzie You thought those people in your dream last night were there. Now......... you're no so sure. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I AM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think you are. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > You think I'm not. > > > > What's the difference? > > > > > > > > fuzzie > > > You thought those people in your dream last night were there. > > > Now......... you're no so sure. > > > toombaru Hi, toombaru: Are you still obsessed with people in other people's dreams??? What can I say? I mean... God love ya, Toombaru, but, I don't know what else to tell you. You can't seem to get beyond that. Just hang in there. Everything's gonna be alright. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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