Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Good Morning Dear Ones, Some time ago, I came 'here'. I did receive one or two shall we say, testings, on the subject of 'who' and from 'where'. No matter, What matters to me now is that you may listen to what I must say. It is quite simple, (although at times not), for a 'who' who knows. And most of us recognize a who who has been recognized.) We play in these fields here and it is good and hugely entertaining, and much enjoyed. I know when I am away from my laptap, and 'you' I meet others of Us in every meeting. Someone always smiles back at me or notices that I am looking. There is somewhat of a field, no doubt. Could be called a Buddha-field I am told. Peace, Love and Acceptance are its components. So, with all That, and so many of us bringing That to the Here and Now in our spheres of influences, why is so little changed in our world? I may be speaking out of my **s here, but as most of us are anonymous, how many of us are out in 'public' effecting/affecting any dramatic change? In speech or deed. I hear much 'complaining' about politics and religion Who here is in either who can, will and does speak up? For myself I have been in the onlooker position seeing how things relate and the whys and hows as to how It Is. And I admit a shyness and a perhaps a fear of public speaking and a stoning thereafter:))) I also have seen my mother die of hunger. That was on her death certificate. She was diagnosed with cancer, did the chemo for approx. a year, was sent home after Xmas with reoccurence and given a couple of weeks to live. She died on March 28. Her whole story is something.. But my point is seeing someone starve to death is not pretty. How many starve every day even when food is available, the politics gets iin the way. How many need the basics of clean water? Can we put Life in a better context than to make use of Life to kill in wars? And why are we selective as to what conflict we are involved? Can we be honest enough to see how Religion is perpetuating pedophiles in its shaming Silence. Knowing that everything is Perfect now, of course, in the Consciousness of What Is as its Coonsciousness.)) (I noticed Consciousness evolves many years ago as I noticed myself evolving. I know a simultaneousness must occur here. As more of us move out of the me-me thinking of separation, the bi-products of separation begin to change.) Technology is abundant and rampant. The heart, it seems, is not. There is an urgency of Life to make use of this abundancy to at least bring clean water, food, housing, medical care to the have nots in the world we share. In our sphere of influence, what are we doing? " Truth being told here, is the " I " part of the " We " willing to let any of the real stuff go--the thought, word, or deed that propogates the I at the expense of the We? After all, we are still creating an Us and Them in these dialogues in these groups. " Something I already said.... As a side note, I brought this issue up to Andrew Cohen as a " WorldWide Practicing Member " and I was summarily dismissed by his personal secretary. Being dismissed seems to be a theme in " anna's " story. Ok, anyway, I just have to tell it regardless. Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 From www.awakeningtotheeternal.net The Eternal can never be that which can change. Bodies, minds, feelings, experiences (even neat spiritual ones!) can never be THAT which never changes. " The word THAT refers to everything, in Totality " ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj That is the Stateless State What is Eternal? What NEVER changes and never did? And never could? ONLY your simple being, presence, awareness. Your very own always-so never missing Knowingness of your original state, arising AS that ...“I am. Present. Aware. Period. " THAT never changes. THAT never is/always IS THAT has always been with you AS you. Remember any time or place and there must be the pure pre-conceptual sense ‘I am†before there can be any thing, thought, memory, feeling, perception. That is before Time and Before cognition. That is the Cognizing emptiness itself … the subject-less objectless Is-Ness that is always right before you, whenever and wherever you are. Dwell in That. Abide AS That. The eternal is … that which knows you are. Like deep sleep, That is knowing before there is a knower. Burn down the forest of ignorance with the fire of the understanding that " I am the one pure awareness, " and be happy and free from distress. ~ Ashtavakra Gita .... and * I am * You Are * Present-aware. Period. It is. Just. That. Simple. Mind you, all these words, are like a thorn used to removed another thorn imbedded in you causing suffering... Once the imbedded thorn (concept) is removed both thorns (concepts) must be tossed into the fire of That Simple Aliveness. Mind you, everything I just said is a story. In truth I am, as you are, no thing no where at all. Which is everything everywhere. But that is another story! (A Love Story!) Anna Ruiz <nli10u wrote: Good Morning Dear Ones, Some time ago, I came 'here'. I did receive one or two shall we say, testings, on the subject of 'who' and from 'where'. No matter, What matters to me now is that you may listen to what I must say. It is quite simple, (although at times not), for a 'who' who knows. And most of us recognize a who who has been recognized.) We play in these fields here and it is good and hugely entertaining, and much enjoyed. I know when I am away from my laptap, and 'you' I meet others of Us in every meeting. Someone always smiles back at me or notices that I am looking. There is somewhat of a field, no doubt. Could be called a Buddha-field I am told. Peace, Love and Acceptance are its components. So, with all That, and so many of us bringing That to the Here and Now in our spheres of influences, why is so little changed in our world? I may be speaking out of my **s here, but as most of us are anonymous, how many of us are out in 'public' effecting/affecting any dramatic change? In speech or deed. I hear much 'complaining' about politics and religion Who here is in either who can, will and does speak up? For myself I have been in the onlooker position seeing how things relate and the whys and hows as to how It Is. And I admit a shyness and a perhaps a fear of public speaking and a stoning thereafter:))) I also have seen my mother die of hunger. That was on her death certificate. She was diagnosed with cancer, did the chemo for approx. a year, was sent home after Xmas with reoccurence and given a couple of weeks to live. She died on March 28. Her whole story is something.. But my point is seeing someone starve to death is not pretty. How many starve every day even when food is available, the politics gets iin the way. How many need the basics of clean water? Can we put Life in a better context than to make use of Life to kill in wars? And why are we selective as to what conflict we are involved? Can we be honest enough to see how Religion is perpetuating pedophiles in its shaming Silence. Knowing that everything is Perfect now, of course, in the Consciousness of What Is as its Coonsciousness.)) (I noticed Consciousness evolves many years ago as I noticed myself evolving. I know a simultaneousness must occur here. As more of us move out of the me-me thinking of separation, the bi-products of separation begin to change.) Technology is abundant and rampant. The heart, it seems, is not. There is an urgency of Life to make use of this abundancy to at least bring clean water, food, housing, medical care to the have nots in the world we share. In our sphere of influence, what are we doing? " Truth being told here, is the " I " part of the " We " willing to let any of the real stuff go--the thought, word, or deed that propogates the I at the expense of the We? After all, we are still creating an Us and Them in these dialogues in these groups. " Something I already said.... As a side note, I brought this issue up to Andrew Cohen as a " WorldWide Practicing Member " and I was summarily dismissed by his personal secretary. Being dismissed seems to be a theme in " anna's " story. Ok, anyway, I just have to tell it regardless. Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Thank you Charlie, Yes. Awareness (God first) is the world made visible. This Awareness of Awareness is what One Is. (One never comes back or out of This, once seen) Now, This goes out into the World as the World's coming and goings. As such we have free access. Life is in the Being and Being is ever creating. What are we creating Now? You already know what my choosing is. Loving All That Is is taking care of the Garden...... Could be called " beyond " the Self Anna - " Charlie Hayes " <chreiki3 <Nisargadatta > Monday, April 18, 2005 10:55 AM Re: a change from inside out From www.awakeningtotheeternal.net The Eternal can never be that which can change. Bodies, minds, feelings, experiences (even neat spiritual ones!) can never be THAT which never changes. " The word THAT refers to everything, in Totality " ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj That is the Stateless State What is Eternal? What NEVER changes and never did? And never could? ONLY your simple being, presence, awareness. Your very own always-so never missing Knowingness of your original state, arising AS that ...â?oI am. Present. Aware. Period. " THAT never changes. THAT never is/always IS THAT has always been with you AS you. Remember any time or place and there must be the pure pre-conceptual sense â?~I amâ? before there can be any thing, thought, memory, feeling, perception. That is before Time and Before cognition. That is the Cognizing emptiness itself â?¦ the subject-less objectless Is-Ness that is always right before you, whenever and wherever you are. Dwell in That. Abide AS That. The eternal is â?¦ that which knows you are. Like deep sleep, That is knowing before there is a knower. Burn down the forest of ignorance with the fire of the understanding that " I am the one pure awareness, " and be happy and free from distress. ~ Ashtavakra Gita .... and * I am * You Are * Present-aware. Period. It is. Just. That. Simple. Mind you, all these words, are like a thorn used to removed another thorn imbedded in you causing suffering... Once the imbedded thorn (concept) is removed both thorns (concepts) must be tossed into the fire of That Simple Aliveness. Mind you, everything I just said is a story. In truth I am, as you are, no thing no where at all. Which is everything everywhere. But that is another story! (A Love Story!) Anna Ruiz <nli10u wrote: Good Morning Dear Ones, Some time ago, I came 'here'. I did receive one or two shall we say, testings, on the subject of 'who' and from 'where'. No matter, What matters to me now is that you may listen to what I must say. It is quite simple, (although at times not), for a 'who' who knows. And most of us recognize a who who has been recognized.) We play in these fields here and it is good and hugely entertaining, and much enjoyed. I know when I am away from my laptap, and 'you' I meet others of Us in every meeting. Someone always smiles back at me or notices that I am looking. There is somewhat of a field, no doubt. Could be called a Buddha-field I am told. Peace, Love and Acceptance are its components. So, with all That, and so many of us bringing That to the Here and Now in our spheres of influences, why is so little changed in our world? I may be speaking out of my **s here, but as most of us are anonymous, how many of us are out in 'public' effecting/affecting any dramatic change? In speech or deed. I hear much 'complaining' about politics and religion Who here is in either who can, will and does speak up? For myself I have been in the onlooker position seeing how things relate and the whys and hows as to how It Is. And I admit a shyness and a perhaps a fear of public speaking and a stoning thereafter:))) I also have seen my mother die of hunger. That was on her death certificate. She was diagnosed with cancer, did the chemo for approx. a year, was sent home after Xmas with reoccurence and given a couple of weeks to live. She died on March 28. Her whole story is something.. But my point is seeing someone starve to death is not pretty. How many starve every day even when food is available, the politics gets iin the way. How many need the basics of clean water? Can we put Life in a better context than to make use of Life to kill in wars? And why are we selective as to what conflict we are involved? Can we be honest enough to see how Religion is perpetuating pedophiles in its shaming Silence. Knowing that everything is Perfect now, of course, in the Consciousness of What Is as its Coonsciousness.)) (I noticed Consciousness evolves many years ago as I noticed myself evolving. I know a simultaneousness must occur here. As more of us move out of the me-me thinking of separation, the bi-products of separation begin to change.) Technology is abundant and rampant. The heart, it seems, is not. There is an urgency of Life to make use of this abundancy to at least bring clean water, food, housing, medical care to the have nots in the world we share. In our sphere of influence, what are we doing? " Truth being told here, is the " I " part of the " We " willing to let any of the real stuff go--the thought, word, or deed that propogates the I at the expense of the We? After all, we are still creating an Us and Them in these dialogues in these groups. " Something I already said.... As a side note, I brought this issue up to Andrew Cohen as a " WorldWide Practicing Member " and I was summarily dismissed by his personal secretary. Being dismissed seems to be a theme in " anna's " story. Ok, anyway, I just have to tell it regardless. Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > Thank you Charlie, > > Yes. > > Awareness (God first) is the world made visible. This Awareness of > Awareness is what One Is. (One never comes back or out of This, once seen) > Now, This goes out into the World as the World's coming and goings. As such > we have free access. > > > > Life is in the Being and Being is ever creating. What are we creating Now? > > You already know what my choosing is. Loving All That Is is taking care of > the Garden...... > > Could be called " beyond " the Self > > Anna > If and when All-That-Is wants the garden taken care of......She creates gardeners. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Charlie, you're definitely a Cadillac of a guy. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Loved your account of your experience with that live American, Wayne L. Keep on keeping us posted. Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > From www.awakeningtotheeternal.net > > > > The Eternal can never be that which can change. Bodies, minds, feelings, experiences (even neat spiritual ones!) can never be THAT which never changes. > > > > " The word THAT refers to everything, in Totality " ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > That is the Stateless State > > > > What is Eternal? What NEVER changes and never did? And never could? ONLY your simple being, presence, awareness. Your very own always-so never missing Knowingness of your original state, arising AS that ...“I am. Present. Aware. Period. " > > > > THAT never changes. THAT never is/always IS > > > > THAT has always been with you AS you. Remember any time or place and there must be the pure pre-conceptual sense ‘I am†before there can be any thing, thought, memory, feeling, perception. That is before Time and Before cognition. That is the Cognizing emptiness itself … the subject-less objectless Is-Ness that is always right before you, whenever and wherever you are. > > > > Dwell in That. Abide AS That. The eternal is … that which knows you are. Like deep sleep, That is knowing before there is a knower. > > Burn down the forest of ignorance with the fire of the understanding that " I am the one pure awareness, " and be happy and free from distress. > > ~ Ashtavakra Gita > > > ... and * I am * You Are * Present-aware. Period. > > > > It is. Just. That. Simple. > > > > Mind you, all these words, are like a thorn used to removed another thorn imbedded in you causing suffering... Once the imbedded thorn (concept) is removed both thorns (concepts) must be tossed into the fire of That Simple Aliveness. > > > > > Mind you, everything I just said is a story. In truth I am, as you are, no thing no where at all. Which is everything everywhere. But that is another story! (A Love Story!) > > > > > Anna Ruiz <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > Good Morning Dear Ones, > > Some time ago, I came 'here'. I did receive one or two shall we say, testings, on the subject of 'who' and from 'where'. No matter, What matters to me now is that you may listen to what I must say. > > It is quite simple, (although at times not), for a 'who' who knows. And most > of us recognize a who who has been recognized.) We play in these fields here and it is good and hugely entertaining, and much enjoyed. > > I know when I am away from my laptap, and 'you' I meet others of Us in every meeting. Someone always smiles back at me or notices that I am looking. There is somewhat of a field, no doubt. Could be called a Buddha-field I am told. Peace, Love and Acceptance are its components. > > So, with all That, and so many of us bringing That to the Here and Now in our spheres of influences, why is so little > changed in our world? > > I may be speaking out of my **s here, but as most of us are anonymous, how many of us are out in 'public' effecting/affecting any dramatic change? In speech or deed. I hear much 'complaining' about politics and religion Who here is in either who can, will and does speak up? For myself I have been in the onlooker position seeing how things relate and the whys and hows as to how It Is. And I admit a shyness and a perhaps a fear of public speaking and a stoning thereafter:))) > > I also have seen my mother die of hunger. That was on her death certificate. She was diagnosed with cancer, did the chemo for approx. a year, was sent home after Xmas with reoccurence and given a couple of weeks to live. She died on March 28. Her whole story is something.. But my point is seeing someone starve to death is not pretty. How many starve every day even when food is available, the politics gets iin the way. How many need the basics of clean water? Can we put Life in a better context than to make use of Life to kill in wars? And why are we selective as to what conflict we are involved? Can we be honest enough to see how Religion is perpetuating pedophiles in its shaming Silence. Knowing that everything is Perfect now, of course, in the Consciousness of What Is as its Coonsciousness.)) > > (I noticed Consciousness evolves many years ago as I noticed myself evolving. > I know a simultaneousness must occur here. As more of us move out of the me-me thinking of separation, the bi-products of separation begin to change.) > > Technology is abundant and rampant. The heart, it seems, is not. There is an urgency of Life to make use of this abundancy to at least bring clean water, food, housing, medical care to the have nots in the world we share. > > In our sphere of influence, what are we doing? > > " Truth being told here, is the " I " part of the " We " willing to let any of the real stuff go--the thought, word, or deed that propogates the I at the expense of the We? After all, we are still creating an > Us and Them in these dialogues in these groups. " Something I already said.... > > As a side note, I brought this issue up to Andrew Cohen as a " WorldWide Practicing Member " and I was summarily dismissed by his personal secretary. Being dismissed seems to be a theme in " anna's " story. Ok, anyway, I just have to tell it regardless. > > Love, > Anna > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 it is a pleasure :-) love c misterenlightenment <misterenlightenment wrote: Charlie, you're definitely a Cadillac of a guy. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Loved your account of your experience with that live American, Wayne L. Keep on keeping us posted. Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > From www.awakeningtotheeternal.net > > > > The Eternal can never be that which can change. Bodies, minds, feelings, experiences (even neat spiritual ones!) can never be THAT which never changes. > > > > " The word THAT refers to everything, in Totality " ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > That is the Stateless State > > > > What is Eternal? What NEVER changes and never did? And never could? ONLY your simple being, presence, awareness. Your very own always-so never missing Knowingness of your original state, arising AS that ...“I am. Present. Aware. Period. " > > > > THAT never changes. THAT never is/always IS > > > > THAT has always been with you AS you. Remember any time or place and there must be the pure pre-conceptual sense ‘I am†before there can be any thing, thought, memory, feeling, perception. That is before Time and Before cognition. That is the Cognizing emptiness itself … the subject-less objectless Is-Ness that is always right before you, whenever and wherever you are. > > > > Dwell in That. Abide AS That. The eternal is … that which knows you are. Like deep sleep, That is knowing before there is a knower. > > Burn down the forest of ignorance with the fire of the understanding that " I am the one pure awareness, " and be happy and free from distress. > > ~ Ashtavakra Gita > > > ... and * I am * You Are * Present-aware. Period. > > > > It is. Just. That. Simple. > > > > Mind you, all these words, are like a thorn used to removed another thorn imbedded in you causing suffering... Once the imbedded thorn (concept) is removed both thorns (concepts) must be tossed into the fire of That Simple Aliveness. > > > > > Mind you, everything I just said is a story. In truth I am, as you are, no thing no where at all. Which is everything everywhere. But that is another story! (A Love Story!) > > > > > Anna Ruiz <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > Good Morning Dear Ones, > > Some time ago, I came 'here'. I did receive one or two shall we say, testings, on the subject of 'who' and from 'where'. No matter, What matters to me now is that you may listen to what I must say. > > It is quite simple, (although at times not), for a 'who' who knows. And most > of us recognize a who who has been recognized.) We play in these fields here and it is good and hugely entertaining, and much enjoyed. > > I know when I am away from my laptap, and 'you' I meet others of Us in every meeting. Someone always smiles back at me or notices that I am looking. There is somewhat of a field, no doubt. Could be called a Buddha-field I am told. Peace, Love and Acceptance are its components. > > So, with all That, and so many of us bringing That to the Here and Now in our spheres of influences, why is so little > changed in our world? > > I may be speaking out of my **s here, but as most of us are anonymous, how many of us are out in 'public' effecting/affecting any dramatic change? In speech or deed. I hear much 'complaining' about politics and religion Who here is in either who can, will and does speak up? For myself I have been in the onlooker position seeing how things relate and the whys and hows as to how It Is. And I admit a shyness and a perhaps a fear of public speaking and a stoning thereafter:))) > > I also have seen my mother die of hunger. That was on her death certificate. She was diagnosed with cancer, did the chemo for approx. a year, was sent home after Xmas with reoccurence and given a couple of weeks to live. She died on March 28. Her whole story is something.. But my point is seeing someone starve to death is not pretty. How many starve every day even when food is available, the politics gets iin the way. How many need the basics of clean water? Can we put Life in a better context than to make use of Life to kill in wars? And why are we selective as to what conflict we are involved? Can we be honest enough to see how Religion is perpetuating pedophiles in its shaming Silence. Knowing that everything is Perfect now, of course, in the Consciousness of What Is as its Coonsciousness.)) > > (I noticed Consciousness evolves many years ago as I noticed myself evolving. > I know a simultaneousness must occur here. As more of us move out of the me-me thinking of separation, the bi-products of separation begin to change.) > > Technology is abundant and rampant. The heart, it seems, is not. There is an urgency of Life to make use of this abundancy to at least bring clean water, food, housing, medical care to the have nots in the world we share. > > In our sphere of influence, what are we doing? > > " Truth being told here, is the " I " part of the " We " willing to let any of the real stuff go--the thought, word, or deed that propogates the I at the expense of the We? After all, we are still creating an > Us and Them in these dialogues in these groups. " Something I already said.... > > As a side note, I brought this issue up to Andrew Cohen as a " WorldWide Practicing Member " and I was summarily dismissed by his personal secretary. Being dismissed seems to be a theme in " anna's " story. Ok, anyway, I just have to tell it regardless. > > Love, > Anna > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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