Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > <dan330033> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leaving some place in a dream....really isn't leaving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Are you dreaming that there is a dream you can comment about? > > > > > > > > Are you dreaming that you commented about a dream? > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh Dan.......no one's dreaming... > > > > > > Are the people in your dreams at night dreaming? > > > > > > No...........There are no people..........there.....or here. > > > > > > > > > There is only the dream....dreaming. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > ** " there is only... " statements are nonsensical. > > Some kind of separate observer assumption is involved, > > but not examined/inquired-into. > > > > " There is only the dream " ... " there is only Consciousness " > > " there is only God " .... " there is only Love, " etc.-- all of a > > kind, > > as statements go. Something affirmed, something thereby denied > > and vice-versa. A circular exercise of descriptions, only-- > > but mistaken as some ultimate verity, or actuality. > > > > Yes, you're right when you point out that there are no > > entities, things (as such) and objects. But same applies to > > 'the dream,' as if it were an object. > > > > So, no dream, no 'mystery,' no 'illusion,' whatsoever--just > the > > inability to perceive the obvious-- directly. > > > > Ken > > Yes, quite so, Ken. > > You make a good point about how many versions of > this there are: there is only god, only the dream, > only consciousness, only iam, etc. > > So popular to say something that sounds good about > the way that everything is, and > sounds like something is being said > that means something. > > But it could just as well be: there is only myxiplexis. > > " the tao that can be tao'd is not the tao. " Lao Tzu > > -- Dan also along these lines is the statement, " the theory that explains everything, explains nothing. " Who killed JFK? Why, the Totality of Functioning, of course. You know, the All That Is, The Big C, Consciousness ItSElf. Who killed Davey Moore? Same guy. And who just can't seem to be able to " smoke out " Osama Bin Laden? You guessed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > <dan330033> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leaving some place in a dream....really isn't leaving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Are you dreaming that there is a dream you can comment about? > > > > > > > > > > Are you dreaming that you commented about a dream? > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh Dan.......no one's dreaming... > > > > > > > > Are the people in your dreams at night dreaming? > > > > > > > > No...........There are no people..........there.....or here. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is only the dream....dreaming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ** " there is only... " statements are nonsensical. > > > Some kind of separate observer assumption is involved, > > > but not examined/inquired-into. > > > > > > " There is only the dream " ... " there is only Consciousness " > > > " there is only God " .... " there is only Love, " etc.-- all of a > > > kind, > > > as statements go. Something affirmed, something thereby > denied > > > and vice-versa. A circular exercise of descriptions, only- - > > > but mistaken as some ultimate verity, or actuality. > > > > > > Yes, you're right when you point out that there are no > > > entities, things (as such) and objects. But same applies to > > > 'the dream,' as if it were an object. > > > > > > So, no dream, no 'mystery,' no 'illusion,' whatsoever-- just > > the > > > inability to perceive the obvious-- directly. > > > > > > Ken > > > > Yes, quite so, Ken. > > > > You make a good point about how many versions of > > this there are: there is only god, only the dream, > > only consciousness, only iam, etc. > > > > So popular to say something that sounds good about > > the way that everything is, and > > sounds like something is being said > > that means something. > > > > But it could just as well be: there is only myxiplexis. > > > > " the tao that can be tao'd is not the tao. " Lao Tzu > > > > -- Dan > > also along these lines is the statement, " the theory that explains > everything, explains nothing. " > > Who killed JFK? Why, the Totality of Functioning, of course. You > know, the All That Is, The Big C, Consciousness ItSElf. > > Who killed Davey Moore? Same guy. > > And who just can't seem to be able to " smoke out " Osama Bin Laden? > > You guessed it. The only exception, is Who killed Christ? Every swinging non-entity knows damn well it was the Jews! (who apparently consider the Unicity to be strictly non-kosher) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > >The only exception, is Who killed Christ? Every swinging non-entity knows damn well it was the Jews! sam: you're sure every non-entity knows it was the Jews? I just finished reading the books The Hiram Key and it's sequel, The Two Messiaha's by C. Knight & R. Lomas (as advised by a thread found on this very message board) and it appears there are many historian experts and professors who are not quite as sure as your non-entity is. The early Roman Church manipulated a great many things, then covered them up and spread new dogma, which is supposedly misinterrpreted from the early church that Jesus and the Essenes represented. And there purpose you may ask? To unite politics with religion in a ploy to manipulate the masses using, none other than control through fear. So, this non-entity also highly suspects it was the Romans that decreed the order to do the killing. They were the ones in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > <dan330033> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leaving some place in a dream....really isn't leaving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Are you dreaming that there is a dream you can comment about? > > > > > > > > > > Are you dreaming that you commented about a dream? > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh Dan.......no one's dreaming... > > > > > > > > Are the people in your dreams at night dreaming? > > > > > > > > No...........There are no people..........there.....or here. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is only the dream....dreaming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ** " there is only... " statements are nonsensical. > > > Some kind of separate observer assumption is involved, > > > but not examined/inquired-into. > > > > > > " There is only the dream " ... " there is only Consciousness " > > > " there is only God " .... " there is only Love, " etc.-- all of a > > > kind, > > > as statements go. Something affirmed, something thereby > denied > > > and vice-versa. A circular exercise of descriptions, only- - > > > but mistaken as some ultimate verity, or actuality. > > > > > > Yes, you're right when you point out that there are no > > > entities, things (as such) and objects. But same applies to > > > 'the dream,' as if it were an object. > > > > > > So, no dream, no 'mystery,' no 'illusion,' whatsoever-- just > > the > > > inability to perceive the obvious-- directly. > > > > > > Ken > > > > Yes, quite so, Ken. > > > > You make a good point about how many versions of > > this there are: there is only god, only the dream, > > only consciousness, only iam, etc. > > > > So popular to say something that sounds good about > > the way that everything is, and > > sounds like something is being said > > that means something. > > > > But it could just as well be: there is only myxiplexis. > > > > " the tao that can be tao'd is not the tao. " Lao Tzu > > > > -- Dan > > also along these lines is the statement, " the theory that explains > everything, explains nothing. " > > Who killed JFK? Why, the Totality of Functioning, of course. You > know, the All That Is, The Big C, Consciousness ItSElf. > > Who killed Davey Moore? Same guy. > > And who just can't seem to be able to " smoke out " Osama Bin Laden? > > You guessed it. Very Good, Mister Enlightenment !!! regards, ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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