Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > >The only exception, is Who killed Christ? > > Every swinging non-entity knows damn well it was the Jews! > > > sam: you're sure every non-entity knows it was the Jews? > > I just finished reading the books The Hiram Key and it's sequel, The > Two Messiaha's by C. Knight & R. Lomas (as advised by a thread found > on this very message board) and it appears there are many historian > experts and professors who are not quite as sure as your non-entity is. > > The early Roman Church manipulated a great many things, then covered > them up and spread new dogma, which is supposedly misinterrpreted from > the early church that Jesus and the Essenes represented. > And there purpose you may ask? To unite politics with religion in a > ploy to manipulate the masses using, none other than control through > fear. > > So, this non-entity also highly suspects it was the Romans that > decreed the order to do the killing. They were the ones in charge.>> According to the best accounts, the way it happened was like this: Jesus was a major pain in the economic ass of the Jerusalem religious establishment centered in and around the Temple. He would tell people things like the fact that they didn't need intermediaries like High Priests, Popes and Cardinals, nor even Mary the Mother of God to intercede on their behalf. They didn't need to schlepp all the way to Jerusalem only to be told that the pigeons they brought for the purpose of sacrificing at the Temple during Passover or whatever weren't kosher enough since the pigeons from the burgs had all these cuts and scratches or other impurities. Better they should spend their last shekels on the kosher pigeons being sold by.......you'll never guess. Anyway, it was decided by the Supreme Court or its Hebraic equivalent, that the wacko from Galilee had to go. They had him arrested for walking more than 30 meters on the Sabbath or somesuch trumped up charge and delivered him to Pontius Pilate in order to make sure Jesus had a legal crucifixion, and not one of those sorry-ass vigalante nailings, which might have spelled BACKLASH for the Jewish religious heirarchy. Let the Romans do the dirty work and take the heat if there was any coming from Jesus' rapidly waning horde of followers, who could sorta see the handwriting on the wall and besides which, all the loaves and fishes were long gone with no more Free Food in sight. Pilate had his own problems with the folks back in Rome and did not want to get involved in what he correctly perceived to be just another local religious squabble. The High Priesthood wanted no wobbling from the procurator. " Either the Nazz goes, or you go. We got connections in the Roman Senate, etc. etc. " Pilate tried the Barabas gambit, but to no success. Finally, the flatulent (yes like Hitler who came later, Pilate was notorious for cutting the cheese at any given moment)and depressed (he would later commit suicide) prefect, gave into the Jewish authorities and signed the crucifixion warrant. The Roman soldiers may have driven in the nails and rolled bones for his cloak, but the guys who " killed Jesus " had all been bar-mitzvahed. In fact, Lenny Bruce admitted to a live audience at Carnegie Hall on Feb. 4, 1961, that it was Lenny's own family who arranged for Jesus' torture and crucifixion. If that ain't enough proof for people, then I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 LOL! That is hilarious. Excellent! Did you write that? Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > >The only exception, is Who killed Christ? > > > > Every swinging non-entity knows damn well it was the Jews! > > > > > > sam: you're sure every non-entity knows it was the Jews? > > > > I just finished reading the books The Hiram Key and it's sequel, > The > > Two Messiaha's by C. Knight & R. Lomas (as advised by a thread > found > > on this very message board) and it appears there are many > historian > > experts and professors who are not quite as sure as your non-entity > is. > > > > The early Roman Church manipulated a great many things, then > covered > > them up and spread new dogma, which is supposedly misinterrpreted > from > > the early church that Jesus and the Essenes represented. > > And there purpose you may ask? To unite politics with religion in > a > > ploy to manipulate the masses using, none other than control > through > > fear. > > > > So, this non-entity also highly suspects it was the Romans that > > decreed the order to do the killing. They were the ones in > charge.>> > > According to the best accounts, the way it happened was like this: > > Jesus was a major pain in the economic ass of the Jerusalem religious > establishment centered in and around the Temple. > > He would tell people things like the fact that they didn't need > intermediaries like High Priests, Popes and Cardinals, nor even Mary > the Mother of God to intercede on their behalf. > > They didn't need to schlepp all the way to Jerusalem only to be told > that the pigeons they brought for the purpose of sacrificing at the > Temple during Passover or whatever weren't kosher enough since the > pigeons from the burgs had all these cuts and scratches or other > impurities. Better they should spend their last shekels on the > kosher pigeons being sold by.......you'll never guess. > > Anyway, it was decided by the Supreme Court or its Hebraic > equivalent, that the wacko from Galilee had to go. > > They had him arrested for walking more than 30 meters on the Sabbath > or somesuch trumped up charge and delivered him to Pontius Pilate in > order to make sure Jesus had a legal crucifixion, and not one of > those sorry-ass vigalante nailings, which might have spelled BACKLASH > for the Jewish religious heirarchy. > > Let the Romans do the dirty work and take the heat if there was any > coming from Jesus' rapidly waning horde of followers, who could sorta > see the handwriting on the wall and besides which, all the loaves and > fishes were long gone with no more Free Food in sight. > > Pilate had his own problems with the folks back in Rome and did not > want to get involved in what he correctly perceived to be just > another local religious squabble. > > The High Priesthood wanted no wobbling from the procurator. " Either > the Nazz goes, or you go. We got connections in the Roman Senate, > etc. etc. " > > Pilate tried the Barabas gambit, but to no success. Finally, the > flatulent (yes like Hitler who came later, Pilate was notorious for > cutting the cheese at any given moment)and depressed (he would later > commit suicide) prefect, gave into the Jewish authorities and signed > the crucifixion warrant. > > The Roman soldiers may have driven in the nails and rolled bones for > his cloak, but the guys who " killed Jesus " had all been bar-mitzvahed. > > In fact, Lenny Bruce admitted to a live audience at Carnegie Hall on > Feb. 4, 1961, that it was Lenny's own family who arranged for Jesus' > torture and crucifixion. > > If that ain't enough proof for people, then I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Who told you " Jesus " " Was " " Killed " ??? Do u know who is Jesus ??? Find out who is Jesus ??? Then u can investigate about the killer of Jesus ... You Mortal , how can that which is immortal - be touched/ killed/maimed ?? murali, Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of fuzzie_wuz Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:12 AM Nisargadatta Re: Who Killed Jesus? The Schneiders, who else? LOL! That is hilarious. Excellent! Did you write that? Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > >The only exception, is Who killed Christ? > > > > Every swinging non-entity knows damn well it was the Jews! > > > > > > sam: you're sure every non-entity knows it was the Jews? > > > > I just finished reading the books The Hiram Key and it's sequel, > The > > Two Messiaha's by C. Knight & R. Lomas (as advised by a thread > found > > on this very message board) and it appears there are many > historian > > experts and professors who are not quite as sure as your non-entity > is. > > > > The early Roman Church manipulated a great many things, then > covered > > them up and spread new dogma, which is supposedly misinterrpreted > from > > the early church that Jesus and the Essenes represented. > > And there purpose you may ask? To unite politics with religion in > a > > ploy to manipulate the masses using, none other than control > through > > fear. > > > > So, this non-entity also highly suspects it was the Romans that > > decreed the order to do the killing. They were the ones in > charge.>> > > According to the best accounts, the way it happened was like this: > > Jesus was a major pain in the economic ass of the Jerusalem religious > establishment centered in and around the Temple. > > He would tell people things like the fact that they didn't need > intermediaries like High Priests, Popes and Cardinals, nor even Mary > the Mother of God to intercede on their behalf. > > They didn't need to schlepp all the way to Jerusalem only to be told > that the pigeons they brought for the purpose of sacrificing at the > Temple during Passover or whatever weren't kosher enough since the > pigeons from the burgs had all these cuts and scratches or other > impurities. Better they should spend their last shekels on the > kosher pigeons being sold by.......you'll never guess. > > Anyway, it was decided by the Supreme Court or its Hebraic > equivalent, that the wacko from Galilee had to go. > > They had him arrested for walking more than 30 meters on the Sabbath > or somesuch trumped up charge and delivered him to Pontius Pilate in > order to make sure Jesus had a legal crucifixion, and not one of > those sorry-ass vigalante nailings, which might have spelled BACKLASH > for the Jewish religious heirarchy. > > Let the Romans do the dirty work and take the heat if there was any > coming from Jesus' rapidly waning horde of followers, who could sorta > see the handwriting on the wall and besides which, all the loaves and > fishes were long gone with no more Free Food in sight. > > Pilate had his own problems with the folks back in Rome and did not > want to get involved in what he correctly perceived to be just > another local religious squabble. > > The High Priesthood wanted no wobbling from the procurator. " Either > the Nazz goes, or you go. We got connections in the Roman Senate, > etc. etc. " > > Pilate tried the Barabas gambit, but to no success. Finally, the > flatulent (yes like Hitler who came later, Pilate was notorious for > cutting the cheese at any given moment)and depressed (he would later > commit suicide) prefect, gave into the Jewish authorities and signed > the crucifixion warrant. > > The Roman soldiers may have driven in the nails and rolled bones for > his cloak, but the guys who " killed Jesus " had all been bar-mitzvahed. > > In fact, Lenny Bruce admitted to a live audience at Carnegie Hall on > Feb. 4, 1961, that it was Lenny's own family who arranged for Jesus' > torture and crucifixion. > > If that ain't enough proof for people, then I don't know what is. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 4/18/05 7:43:14 PM, fuzzie_wuz writes: > > > > LOL! That is hilarious. Excellent! Did you write that? > > > > P: Let me interject here, that God killed Jesus. And that > the founding fathers of the Church needed drama, > passion, pathos. To say that Jesus died from a > a fallen roof, wouldn't have sold the story. Several > villains were needed to thicken the plot. So, Judas, > Pilate and the pharisees are as essential to the passion as > Jesus. There are no heroes without villains. > If they had not existed, they would have to be invented. > Guys, even Mel Gibson knows that. How do you think a film > called: " The Heart Attack of Jesus. " would have sold? > > Pete > LOL! Right. It's like what Bruce said: If Jesus had been executed in the electric chair, Christians would be walking around with little electric chairs around their necks, instead of crosses. fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/05 7:43:14 PM, fuzzie_wuz writes: > > > > > > > LOL! That is hilarious. Excellent! Did you write that?>> > > > Let's just say it was written, but there was no writer thereof. > > Oh bullshit! Yeah, I wrote it. Glad you liked it! You are funny, man. (Have I mentioned that, yet?) I love it. Keep up the good work. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/18/05 7:43:14 PM, fuzzie_wuz writes: > > > > > > > LOL! That is hilarious. Excellent! Did you write that? > > > > > > > P: Let me interject here, that God killed Jesus. And that > > the founding fathers of the Church needed drama, > > passion, pathos. To say that Jesus died from a > > a fallen roof, wouldn't have sold the story. Several > > villains were needed to thicken the plot. So, Judas, > > Pilate and the pharisees are as essential to the passion as > > Jesus. There are no heroes without villains. > > If they had not existed, they would have to be invented. > > Guys, even Mel Gibson knows that. How do you think a film > > called: " The Heart Attack of Jesus. " would have sold? > > > > Pete > > > > > LOL! > > Right. It's like what Bruce said: If Jesus had been executed in the > electric chair, Christians would be walking around with little > electric chairs around their necks, instead of crosses. > > > > fuzzie That's so unaesthetic! An electric chair is so horribly ugly in every sense of the word. Crucifiction is a more horrible means of killing a person than using an electric chair, _yet_ the cross has some deeper symbolism in it, and that makes the cross more esthetic. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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