[NonDualPhil] Re : Dukkha - nervous system. / Pete ?

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In a message dated 4/18/05 12:56:16 PM, adithya_comming writes:

 

 

> > Pete:   You are selling the concept short, Mrs. Short.

> > Dukkha is ingrained in the nervous system.

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> ...or, maybe, a small particular part of the nervous system.

> Maybe, a small particular functionality of it.

>

> Maybe, ...a particular mode of operation of it !

>

>

> Ever wondered, ...there is no dukkha in Deep Sleep ?

> ...or in samadhi ?

>

> Or closer home,

> ...why you think many creative people forget all dukhas in midst of a

> deeply absorbing creation activity ...painting, poetry, music,

> dancing ...

>

>

> Why you think that Is ?

>

> ....

> P: Since you are in a wondering mood, when not, right?

Anyway, since you are wondering, why not wonder

about this: could there be suffering without short term

memory (and I don't mean any memory of Mrs. Short

is dukkha) Well, you know what I mean, those people

who can't remember what hapened a few seconds ago.

 

So, is mental suffering solely a product of memory? If

your dearest die, but you forget about her death in a few

seconds, and no matter how often you are reminded you

forget, could you suffer? Even physical pain needs

memory to be really painful does it not? If it's ever fresh,

of this very moment, then it becomes quiet endurable,

is it not so?

 

Pete

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

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> In a message dated 4/18/05 12:56:16 PM, adithya_comming writes:

>

>

> > > Pete:   You are selling the concept short, Mrs. Short.

> > > Dukkha is ingrained in the nervous system.

> >

> > ...or, maybe, a small particular part of the nervous system.

> > Maybe, a small particular functionality of it.

> >

> > Maybe, ...a particular mode of operation of it !

> >

> >

> > Ever wondered, ...there is no dukkha in Deep Sleep ?

> > ...or in samadhi ?

> >

> > Or closer home,

> > ...why you think many creative people forget all dukhas in midst

of a

> > deeply absorbing creation activity ...painting, poetry, music,

> > dancing ...

> >

> >

> > Why you think that Is ?

> >

> > ....

> > P: Since you are in a wondering mood, when not, right?

> Anyway, since you are wondering, why not wonder

> about this: could there be suffering without short term

> memory (and I don't mean any memory of Mrs. Short

> is dukkha) Well, you know what I mean, those people

> who can't remember what hapened a few seconds ago.

>

> So, is mental suffering solely a product of memory? If

> your dearest die, but you forget about her death in a few

> seconds, and no matter how often you are reminded you

> forget, could you suffer? Even physical pain needs

> memory to be really painful does it not? If it's ever fresh,

> of this very moment, then it becomes quiet endurable,

> is it not so?

>

> Pete

 

Does having 'memory' of something needs to mean,

to ... " be thinking " about it ???

 

What is there when you are NOT thinking ?

....is it Dukkha ?

 

 

 

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