[NonDualPhil] Re : Dukkha - nervous system. / Pete ?

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In a message dated 4/18/05 4:53:01 PM, adithya_comming writes:

 

 

> P:   Since you are in a wondering mood, when not, right?

> >       Anyway, since you are wondering, why not wonder

> >      about this: could there be suffering without short term

> >      memory (and I don't mean any memory of Mrs. Short

> >      is dukkha) Well, you know what I mean, those people

> >      who can't remember what hapened a few seconds ago.

> >

> >  So, is mental suffering solely a product of memory? If

> > your dearest die, but you forget about her death in a few

> > seconds, and no matter how often you are reminded you

> >  forget, could you suffer?   Even physical pain needs

> > memory to be really painful does it not? If it's ever fresh,

> > of this very moment, then it becomes quiet endurable,

> > is it not so?

> >

> > Pete

>

> AC:Does having 'memory' of something needs to mean,

> ... " be thinking " about it ???

>

P: Not necessarily thinking as the movement of thoughts,

but bringing and holding into focus a memory, or a sensation,

an emotion, or an image, etc.

>

> What is there when you are NOT thinking ?

> ...is it Dukkha?

>

P: Thinking is not the only form of knowing,

a scalded dog shies from a pot of hot water.

If you learn the trick of " not taking delivery

of what happens, " as Maharaj put it, then

each moment of dukkha appears and disappears

on its own, and we don't trail a stream of painful,

noisy, empty dukkha cans like a newlywed car.

 

Pete