Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things around your > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > An electric chair around the neck? > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > al... Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can push. Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big time, my man. Anna, you in? Mr. E Chairman (of the Board) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 - misterenlightenment Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:44 PM Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things around your > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > An electric chair around the neck? > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > al... Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can push. Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big time, my man. Anna, you in? Mr. E Chairman (of the Board) Hey, Am I in? In what? And What would I be In? If that is, I would Be....then the question would arise why not? then i would have to explain and then your perception of I/not-I would filter in and you and I would have to go round and round. All to _________(fill in the blank). I think not and now why am i thinking, oh you asked a question..... See what you started? don't love you no more now that you got me started thinking....)))) a. I might answer this differently another time...)) ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > around your > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > al... > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can > push. > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big > time, my man. > > Anna, you in? > > Mr. E > Chairman (of the Board) I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 - fuzzie_wuz Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > around your > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > al... > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can > push. > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big > time, my man. > > Anna, you in? > > Mr. E > Chairman (of the Board) I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. Yours, e fuzzie You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, peanuts and cracker jacks,.. Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... anna anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > fuzzie_wuz > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > around your > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > al... > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can > > push. > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big > > time, my man. > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > Mr. E > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > Yours, > e > fuzzie > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are kids today who are _not_ horrified by such things??? al. > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > anna > > anna ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:04 PM Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > fuzzie_wuz > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > around your > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > al... > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can > > push. > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big > > time, my man. > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > Mr. E > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > Yours, > e > fuzzie > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are kids today who are _not_ horrified by such things??? al. > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > anna > > anna no, not at all. I was just fast forwarding into the future to make a point. i have lots of stories about kids...)) > > > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:04 PM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > fuzzie_wuz > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > around your > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > of the > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > thinking! > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > meet, I > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > out in > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > about > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > Carey > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > they can > > > push. > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > the big > > > time, my man. > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > Mr. E > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > Yours, > > e > > fuzzie > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are kids today who are _not_ > horrified by such things??? > > al. > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > anna > > > > anna > > > no, not at all. I was just fast forwarding into the future to make a > point. i have lots of stories about kids...)) > But the meaning of what you were saying is that somewhere in the past or today there were/are kids who were/are not horrified by such things. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > fuzzie_wuz > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > around your > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will of the > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he thinking! > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I meet, I > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item out in > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > al... > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought about > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah Carey > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that they can > > push. > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit the big > > time, my man. > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > Mr. E > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > Yours, > e > fuzzie > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > anna > > anna > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these hangings. It was a festive event for them. People are strange. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > fuzzie_wuz > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > around your > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > of the > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > thinking! > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > meet, I > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > out in > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > about > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > Carey > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > they can > > > push. > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > the big > > > time, my man. > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > Mr. E > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > Yours, > > e > > fuzzie > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > anna > > > > anna > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > People are strange. > > Yours, > > fuzzie LOL! I can imagine a family hurryingly preparing the picnic as if being indecisive about whether having picnic was more important than watching the hanging show. The thinking mind creates objects. Everything gets objectified, and then these mental objects are ranked on a scale of importance. Objects like 'my husband', 'my wife' and 'my children' are ranked extremely high. These objects become 'real human beings' while some woman about to be hanged remains a low ranked object, at best a moment of entertainment while having picnic. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > fuzzie_wuz > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > around your > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > of the > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > thinking! > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > meet, I > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > out in > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > about > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > Carey > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > they can > > > push. > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > the big > > > time, my man. > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > Mr. E > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > Yours, > > e > > fuzzie > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > anna > > > > anna > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > People are strange. > > Yours, > > fuzzie " People " are mnemonic reactional....survival-biased machinery...... No stranger then kitchen appliances. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:30 AM Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > fuzzie_wuz > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > around your > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > of the > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > thinking! > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > meet, I > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > out in > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > about > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > Carey > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > they can > > > push. > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > the big > > > time, my man. > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > Mr. E > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > Yours, > > e > > fuzzie > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > anna > > > > anna > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > People are strange. > > Yours, > > fuzzie LOL! I can imagine a family hurryingly preparing the picnic as if being indecisive about whether having picnic was more important than watching the hanging show. The thinking mind creates objects. Everything gets objectified, and then these mental objects are ranked on a scale of importance. Objects like 'my husband', 'my wife' and 'my children' are ranked extremely high. These objects become 'real human beings' while some woman about to be hanged remains a low ranked object, at best a moment of entertainment while having picnic. al. It is truly amazing, yes indeed. Thinking-subject-I sees no-thing but object and hell ensues. Thinking-subject-I sees itself as object, hmmm, the universe becomes subject....Seeing itself. a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:33 AM Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > fuzzie_wuz > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > around your > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > of the > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > thinking! > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > meet, I > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > out in > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > about > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > Carey > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > they can > > > push. > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > the big > > > time, my man. > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > Mr. E > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > Yours, > > e > > fuzzie > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > anna > > > > anna > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > People are strange. > > Yours, > > fuzzie " People " are mnemonic reactional....survival-biased machinery...... No stranger then kitchen appliances. toombaru ah, so kitchen appliances do not move........ unless............they are...........so moved............ anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:38 PM Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:04 PM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > fuzzie_wuz > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > around your > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > of the > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such chair > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > thinking! > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > meet, I > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > out in > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to understand > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what to do! > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > about > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be for > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > Carey > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > they can > > > push. > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > the big > > > time, my man. > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > Mr. E > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down there in > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. It has > > something to do with their high moral standards and their propagation > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > Yours, > > e > > fuzzie > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are kids today who are _not_ > horrified by such things??? > > al. > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > anna > > > > anna > > > no, not at all. I was just fast forwarding into the future to make a > point. i have lots of stories about kids...)) > But the meaning of what you were saying is that somewhere in the past or today there were/are kids who were/are not horrified by such things. al. quite possibly my dear al, quite possibly. and quite possibly the people who these children call family may be quite similar. a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:30 AM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > fuzzie_wuz > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > > around your > > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > > of the > > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such > chair > > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > > thinking! > > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > > meet, I > > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > > out in > > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to > understand > > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what > to do! > > > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > > about > > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be > for > > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > > Carey > > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > > they can > > > > push. > > > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > > the big > > > > time, my man. > > > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > > > Mr. E > > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down > there in > > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. > It has > > > something to do with their high moral standards and their > propagation > > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > > > Yours, > > > e > > > fuzzie > > > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > > > anna > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > > > People are strange. > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie > > > LOL! I can imagine a family hurryingly preparing the picnic as if > being indecisive about whether having picnic was more important than > watching the hanging show. > > The thinking mind creates objects. Everything gets objectified, and > then these mental objects are ranked on a scale of importance. Objects > like 'my husband', 'my wife' and 'my children' are ranked extremely > high. These objects become 'real human beings' while some woman about > to be hanged remains a low ranked object, at best a moment of > entertainment while having picnic. > > al. > > > It is truly amazing, yes indeed. Thinking-subject-I sees no-thing but object and hell ensues. > Thinking-subject-I sees itself as object, hmmm, the universe becomes subject....Seeing itself. > > a. > The universe sees itself and thinks: wow, what a tragicomedy I have created, look at human history, the suffering, the joy, the tears and the laughter, I really am a great artist. al. 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Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:38 PM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:04 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > fuzzie_wuz > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly > things > > > > around your > > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > > of the > > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see > such chair > > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > > thinking! > > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > > meet, I > > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > > out in > > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to > understand > > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what > to do! > > > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > > about > > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would > be for > > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > > Carey > > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big > time. > > > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > > they can > > > > push. > > > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > > the big > > > > time, my man. > > > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > > > Mr. E > > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of > the most > > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down > there in > > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. > I'm sure > > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United > States > > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation > of his > > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing > people. It has > > > something to do with their high moral standards and their > propagation > > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > > > Yours, > > > e > > > fuzzie > > > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > > > Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are kids today who are _not_ > > horrified by such things??? > > > > al. > > > > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > > > anna > > > > > > anna > > > > > > no, not at all. I was just fast forwarding into the future to make a > > point. i have lots of stories about kids...)) > > > > > But the meaning of what you were saying is that somewhere in the past > or today there were/are kids who were/are not horrified by such things. > > al. > > quite possibly my dear al, quite possibly. and quite possibly the people who these children call family > may be quite similar. > > a. > I read that in China they have public executions. Since the audience in such events are large, I cannot but surmise that there are people who actually enjoy such nastiness. Eckhart Tolle says that today the human pain body is in charge of much of the world (politics, finance, media, entertainment industry e t c). He calls it " the old state of consciousness " . al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:55 AM Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:30 AM > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > fuzzie_wuz > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > > around your > > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > > of the > > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such > chair > > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > > thinking! > > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > > meet, I > > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > > out in > > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to > understand > > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what > to do! > > > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > > about > > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be > for > > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > > Carey > > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > > they can > > > > push. > > > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > > the big > > > > time, my man. > > > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > > > Mr. E > > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down > there in > > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. > It has > > > something to do with their high moral standards and their > propagation > > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > > > Yours, > > > e > > > fuzzie > > > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > > > anna > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > > > People are strange. > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie > > > LOL! I can imagine a family hurryingly preparing the picnic as if > being indecisive about whether having picnic was more important than > watching the hanging show. > > The thinking mind creates objects. Everything gets objectified, and > then these mental objects are ranked on a scale of importance. Objects > like 'my husband', 'my wife' and 'my children' are ranked extremely > high. These objects become 'real human beings' while some woman about > to be hanged remains a low ranked object, at best a moment of > entertainment while having picnic. > > al. > > > It is truly amazing, yes indeed. Thinking-subject-I sees no-thing but object and hell ensues. > Thinking-subject-I sees itself as object, hmmm, the universe becomes subject....Seeing itself. > > a. > The universe sees itself and thinks: wow, what a tragicomedy I have created, look at human history, the suffering, the joy, the tears and the laughter, I really am a great artist. al. the only artist/producer/director/actor that ever existed...) a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 > > It is truly amazing, yes indeed. Thinking-subject-I sees no-thing but object and hell ensues. > Thinking-subject-I sees itself as object, hmmm, the universe becomes subject....Seeing itself. > > a. > > > The self.....turns inward.....and seeing nothing..........sees everything. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:38 PM > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > anders_lindman > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:04 PM > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > - > > > > fuzzie_wuz > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly > > things > > > > > around your > > > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the > free will > > > of the > > > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see > > such chair > > > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > > > thinking! > > > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every > person I > > > meet, I > > > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push > this item > > > out in > > > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to > > understand > > > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what > > to do! > > > > > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't > thought > > > about > > > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would > > be for > > > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or > Mariah > > > Carey > > > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big > > time. > > > > > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have > any > > > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style > that > > > they can > > > > > push. > > > > > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time > to hit > > > the big > > > > > time, my man. > > > > > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > > > > > Mr. E > > > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of > > the most > > > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down > > there in > > > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. > > I'm sure > > > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current > governor of > > > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United > > States > > > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation > > of his > > > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing > > people. It has > > > > something to do with their high moral standards and their > > propagation > > > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been > told. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > e > > > > fuzzie > > > > > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > > > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular > ancient era, > > > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > > > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat > amused. > > > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, > programs, > > > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years > into the > > > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, > electric > > > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > > > > > > Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are kids today who > are _not_ > > > horrified by such things??? > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning > is a > > > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in > which > > > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because > children have > > > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > no, not at all. I was just fast forwarding into the future > to make a > > > point. i have lots of stories about kids...)) > > > > > > > > > But the meaning of what you were saying is that somewhere in the past > > or today there were/are kids who were/are not horrified by such > things. > > > > al. > > > > quite possibly my dear al, quite possibly. and quite possibly the > people who these children call family > > may be quite similar. > > > > a. > > > > > I read that in China they have public executions. Since the audience > in such events are large, I cannot but surmise that there are people > who actually enjoy such nastiness. > > Eckhart Tolle says that today the human pain body is in charge of much > of the world (politics, finance, media, entertainment industry e t c). > He calls it " the old state of consciousness " . > > al. Echhart says that kinda thing to indicate that humanity can find a path out of its painful dream of separation..... ........it helps sell books. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > fuzzie_wuz > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly things > > > > around your > > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > > of the > > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such > chair > > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > > thinking! > > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > > meet, I > > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > > out in > > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to > understand > > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what > to do! > > > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > > about > > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be > for > > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > > Carey > > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big time. > > > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > > they can > > > > push. > > > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > > the big > > > > time, my man. > > > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > > > Mr. E > > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of the most > > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down > there in > > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm sure > > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United States > > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation of his > > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. > It has > > > something to do with their high moral standards and their > propagation > > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > > > Yours, > > > e > > > fuzzie > > > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > > > anna > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > > > People are strange. > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie > > > LOL! I can imagine a family hurryingly preparing the picnic as if > being indecisive about whether having picnic was more important than > watching the hanging show. > > The thinking mind creates objects. Everything gets objectified, and > then these mental objects are ranked on a scale of importance. Objects > like 'my husband', 'my wife' and 'my children' are ranked extremely > high. These objects become 'real human beings' while some woman about > to be hanged remains a low ranked object, at best a moment of > entertainment while having picnic. > > al. Hi, al: It's reminiscent of the goodle days when the Romans would gather at the Coliseum to watch the " undesirables " be tortured and killed in all kinds of creative and sordid ways. It was entertainment for the masses; fun for the whole family. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > - > > > > fuzzie_wuz > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:32 PM > > > > Re: Brilliant Idea !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > > > <misterenlightenment> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > ><<snip>> LOL. You can of course have one of those ghostly > things > > > > > around your > > > > > > neck. That's your prerogative. I am always for the free will > > > of the > > > > > > people. And frankly, I would find it interesting to see such > > chair > > > > > > hanging around somebody's neck. What the heck is she or he > > > thinking! > > > > > > An electric chair around the neck? > > > > > > > > > > > > But if I began to see such chair around almost every person I > > > meet, I > > > > > > would get the idea that someone had managed to push this item > > > out in > > > > > > the open market as some new fashion gimmick. We have to > > understand > > > > > > that most people actually do want others to tell them what > > to do! > > > > > > > > > > > > al... > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, al, we may be onto something here. I hadn't thought > > > about > > > > > it in a marketing sense before, but all it would take would be > > for > > > > > ONE, just one, celebrity like Carlos Santana or Bono or Mariah > > > Carey > > > > > to start wearing one of our pieces and we're in business big > time. > > > > > > > > > > You can be Senior VP of Swedish Operations. Do you have any > > > > > connection with ABBA? We can a retro chair, disco-style that > > > they can > > > > > push. > > > > > > > > > > Our motto could be: " Show you care. Wear the chair. " > > > > > > > > > > Let's forget all this enlightenment garbage. It's time to hit > > > the big > > > > > time, my man. > > > > > > > > > > Anna, you in? > > > > > > > > > > Mr. E > > > > > Chairman (of the Board) > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you should call it " Old Sparky " , in honor of one of > the most > > > > celebrated electric chairs in all penal history, located down > > there in > > > > the good ol' Florida State Prison in Jacksonville, Florida. > I'm sure > > > > you could probably get an endorsement from the current governor of > > > > Florida, Jeb Bush, the brother of the President of the United > States > > > > of America, George W. Bush, who, also, has quite a reputation > of his > > > > own in Texas for having a strong appetite for executing people. > > It has > > > > something to do with their high moral standards and their > > propagation > > > > of what is known as a " culture of life " . Or, so I've been told. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > e > > > > fuzzie > > > > > > > > You know fuzzie, when I was a kid, I watched a movie that > > > obviously had a lasting effect on me. In that particular ancient era, > > > the capital punishment was being drawn and quartered. I was > > > absolutely horrified. I am still horrified but somewhat amused. > > > The (mobs) crowds, it seems, may as well sell, programs, programs, > > > peanuts and cracker jacks,.. > > > > > > > > Anyhow I always thought that maybe a hundred or so years into the > > > future, some kid is going to be horrified by gas chambers, electric > > > chairs, and now squeaky clean lethal injection. > > > > > > > > As all things are subject to change, what i am envisioning is a > > > world where children are no longer horrified. I'm not sure in which > > > manner. Because nothing 'horrifying' occurs or because children have > > > lost this last bit of humanity, a horror against horror... > > > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > Yeah. Movies are violent and scary. You see all kinds of crazy stuff > > > in the movies. Don't watch em. People being chainsawed and brutally > > > beaten and shot and tortured in one form or another. That's what > > > sells. The more intense the violence or the more creepier the > > > psychotic killer, the better. How much money did those Hannibal the > > > Cannibal movies take in? See what I'm saying? > > > > > > Back in the old days in America, if there was a public hanging, people > > > would come from miles around to see the hanging. They would pack up > > > the kids and the buggy and ride into town to go see the hanging. They > > > would prepare a picnic basket and sit out in the open air and watch > > > the hanging and drink and dine. Huge crowds would attend these > > > hangings. It was a festive event for them. > > > > > > People are strange. > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > > > LOL! I can imagine a family hurryingly preparing the picnic as if > > being indecisive about whether having picnic was more important than > > watching the hanging show. > > > > The thinking mind creates objects. Everything gets objectified, and > > then these mental objects are ranked on a scale of importance. Objects > > like 'my husband', 'my wife' and 'my children' are ranked extremely > > high. These objects become 'real human beings' while some woman about > > to be hanged remains a low ranked object, at best a moment of > > entertainment while having picnic. > > > > al. > > > Hi, al: > > It's reminiscent of the goodle days when the Romans would gather at > the Coliseum to watch the " undesirables " be tortured and killed in all > kinds of creative and sordid ways. It was entertainment for the > masses; fun for the whole family. > > Yours, > > fuzzie Yes. And I am trying to come to terms with those ideas and views. My goal is to enter second-tier thinking (starting at the yellow meme level in Spiral Dynamics). Second-tier thinking transcends and includes (integrates) all lower levels. http://www.ki-net.co.uk/spiraldynamics_wilber.html I am not sure though how I shall manage to take this step. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 > > Yes. And I am trying to come to terms with those ideas and views. My > goal is to enter second-tier thinking (starting at the yellow meme > level in Spiral Dynamics). Second-tier thinking transcends and > includes (integrates) all lower levels. > > http://www.ki-net.co.uk/spiraldynamics_wilber.html > > I am not sure though how I shall manage to take this step. > > al. Just remember...It's turtles...all the way down. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > Yes. And I am trying to come to terms with those ideas and views. My > goal is to enter second-tier thinking (starting at the yellow meme > level in Spiral Dynamics). Second-tier thinking transcends and > includes (integrates) all lower levels. > > http://www.ki-net.co.uk/spiraldynamics_wilber.html > when you look for frameworks of thought (to kill time?), they will find you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. And I am trying to come to terms with those ideas and views. My > > goal is to enter second-tier thinking (starting at the yellow meme > > level in Spiral Dynamics). Second-tier thinking transcends and > > includes (integrates) all lower levels. > > > > http://www.ki-net.co.uk/spiraldynamics_wilber.html > > > > I am not sure though how I shall manage to take this step. > > > > al. > > > > Just remember...It's turtles...all the way down. > > > toombaru That's too many. I think I will start with these levels first (that will be enough to make Ken Wilber green with envy): Amethyst Carnelian Cinnamon Coral Crimson Ebony Emerald Fawn Indigo Lavender Lilac Scarlett Sienna Silver Xanthe al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes. And I am trying to come to terms with those ideas and views. My > > > goal is to enter second-tier thinking (starting at the yellow meme > > > level in Spiral Dynamics). Second-tier thinking transcends and > > > includes (integrates) all lower levels. > > > > > > http://www.ki-net.co.uk/spiraldynamics_wilber.html > > > > > > I am not sure though how I shall manage to take this step. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > Just remember...It's turtles...all the way down. > > > > > > toombaru > > > That's too many. I think I will start with these levels first (that > will be enough to make Ken Wilber green with envy): > > Amethyst > Carnelian > Cinnamon > Coral > Crimson > Ebony > Emerald > Fawn > Indigo > Lavender > Lilac > Scarlett > Sienna > Silver > Xanthe > > al. Don't forget puce. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. And I am trying to come to terms with those ideas and views. My > > goal is to enter second-tier thinking (starting at the yellow meme > > level in Spiral Dynamics). Second-tier thinking transcends and > > includes (integrates) all lower levels. > > > > http://www.ki-net.co.uk/spiraldynamics_wilber.html > > > > when you look for frameworks of thought (to kill time?), they will > find you. Yes, I don't know if I really shall go into this green-yellow and whathaveyou meme stuff too much. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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