Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 " Even the intellectual understanding of the inexistence of our 'selves' is a rare and bitter attainment which few even attempt. And that is only the elimination round which qualifies us for access to Reality... Intellectual understanding should be not indispensable to a 'simple' mind, but, with our conditioning, it would seem to be an almost inevitable preliminary. " ~ Wei Wu Wei anders_lindman <anders_lindman wrote: Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > The 'intellectual' understanding is a POINTER to That which Always Is .. That " I Am " > > Remove the label 'intellectual' and there IS the Understanding > > F W I W :-) > > c. I still don't 'get it'. Frustrating. al. > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > Yes. But the 'shift' is more a seeing that there is in turth no > separate 'me' or 'you' > > > > There is, as Tony Parsons puts it, a 'me-ing and be-ing' ... an > apearance of moving in and out of That > > > > " just " I am " , then, not even that " > > > > Love > > c. > > > Very interesting. Extraordinary! I imagine I would feel extremely free > without a " me " . Yet, obviously one can not grasp this me-ing > intellectually it seems. > > al. > > > > > > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > Do you experience a peace now in everyday life? Has a > > shift/transformation happened in you which can be called a form of > awakening? > > > > Mr. Curious > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > " Even the intellectual understanding of the inexistence of our 'selves' is a rare and bitter attainment which few even attempt. And that is only the elimination round which qualifies us for access to Reality... Intellectual understanding should be not indispensable to a 'simple' mind, but, with our conditioning, it would seem to be an almost inevitable preliminary. " > ~ Wei Wu Wei Thanks. Yet my intellectual understanding is that I do exist as a separate individual and at the same time everything must somehow be connected. I see my separate self as being as real as for example a computer monitor. My separate self is an object just like any other separate object. al. > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > The 'intellectual' understanding is a POINTER to That which Always > Is .. That " I Am " > > > > Remove the label 'intellectual' and there IS the Understanding > > > > F W I W :-) > > > > c. > > > I still don't 'get it'. Frustrating. > > al. > > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> > wrote: > > > Yes. But the 'shift' is more a seeing that there is in turth no > > separate 'me' or 'you' > > > > > > There is, as Tony Parsons puts it, a 'me-ing and be-ing' ... an > > apearance of moving in and out of That > > > > > > " just " I am " , then, not even that " > > > > > > Love > > > c. > > > > > > Very interesting. Extraordinary! I imagine I would feel extremely free > > without a " me " . Yet, obviously one can not grasp this me-ing > > intellectually it seems. > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > anders_lindman <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > Do you experience a peace now in everyday life? Has a > > > shift/transformation happened in you which can be called a form of > > awakening? > > > > > > Mr. Curious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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