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Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

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> anders_lindman

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, April 22, 2005 7:31 AM

> Re: Pound of Shit

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> Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...>

wrote:

> >

> > -

> > anders_lindman

> > Nisargadatta

> > Friday, April 22, 2005 5:36 AM

> > Re: Pound of Shit

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz "

> <fuzzie_wuz> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/21/05 2:25:02 PM,

anders_lindman writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Say, if you are so busy deleting posts, how can you be

so

> sure what

> > > > > they are about? Did you delete this post b t w? Do you

use your

> > > > > preconceived ideas as a criteria for deleting posts, or

is your

> > > > > intuition keen enough to sense the content of a post by

its

> title?

> > > > >

> > > > > al.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > P: Since you asked, below are the confessions of a

deleting

> > dilettante.

> > > > Obviously, I didn't delete this one. Why? because I

knew you

> > > > were answering my post. I know your posts are about angst

and

> > > > speculation. If I'm in the mood for that, and the traffic

is

> low, I

> > > > will read one or two. I read all posts by Dan, Werner,

Lewis,

> > > > Muralis, Kip, and most of the other non-habitual posters.

People

> > > > who post to chit-chat, and to relieve boredom, or out of

confusion

> > > > day in and day out, I seldom read.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Pedsie2:

> > >

> > > I apologize. I have been on this forum about 2 weeks, now.

I was

> just

> > > having some fun with it. Somebody gave me an old computer

and I

> hooked

> > > it up and then I found this forum and started talking to

people

> on it.

> > > And, it's been fun. But, if it's bugging you and you are

> irritated by

> > > me, then, man, I'm gonna try to make a concerted effort and

not post

> > > so much on here. I don't want to bother anybody or start any

> trouble.

> > > I've just been having some fun, man. I hope you understand.

> > >

> > > I don't know if you've read any of my posts, but, I am

totally into

> > > what Nisargadatta was about. So, I'm not on here to just

jerk

> > > somebody's chain or to be a troll or anything like that. I'm

> serious.

> > > Just wanted you to know that.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > fuzzie

> >

> >

> > Fuzzie, that was a much more moderate reply to Pete than I

made. But

> > to my defence I must stress that my reply was an attempt to

use

> > second-tier thinking and post ANGRY words as a reply. But of

course

> > one has to be polite too. What I understand about second-tier

thinking

> > is that one can then be extremely nasty and/or very nice, and

> > everything in between, depending on the situation. Although I

am not

> > sure exactly when to be nasty and when to be nice. :-) My

idea is that

> > in first-tier thinking one can be angry without exactly

knowing why,

> > while in second-tier thinking one knows when to be rude.

> >

> > But I think I will also slow down a bit lest there will be

too much

> > spam-like posting from me. Or maybe I will *increase* my

posting rate

> > to see how people (and myself) react. :-]

> >

> > al.

> >

> >

> >

> > good morning (((((Al))))),

> > If I might, I would say 2nd tier is all about balance and

seeing

> where the 'other' as 'We' is stuck and not 'auto reply' nor

> retreating in any manner shape or form. After all, " you'

and 'other'

> have equal importance.

> >

> > Love,

> > loretta (formerly known as Anna)

> >

>

>

> Hi loretta,

>

> 2nd tier is really what Eckhart Tolle calls a new state of

> consciousness. In that state you *know* that you and the world are

> one, and not just having personal opinions or self-delusions

about it.

> I suspect that Tolle is correct, but that he hasn't reached 2nd

tier

> yet. Only the planet as a whole can reach 2nd tier. Everything

else is

> an ego delusion. No one on earth has reached true 2nd tier yet.

>

> Ken Wilber talks about new holons emerging and embracing previous

> holons, such as cells embracing molecules embracing atoms... What

is

> the next holon? Planetary consciousness - the whole planet

becomes a

> new holon on an _entirely_ different level than what Ken Wilber

can

> surmise from his _own_ theories! He hasn't grocked his own theory!

> What is the difference between a single cell and a human being?

Quite

> a pretty big difference! What is the difference between one level

of

> holon to the next level? The difference is clearly seen between a

> single cell and a human being. The next level is the difference

> between a human being and the whole planet as a single new holon.

>

> al.

>

>

>

> Hey Al,

> YEAH, so? If one has not experienced what one is writing about

(once having been a distinct possible possibility), what can one

REALLY say about <it>?

>

> Next level is really quite simple, again there never was a

difference, only the separated, differentiated " I " , 'thought'

> difference via unidentification with Consciousness as Being.

>

> loretta. >>

 

It's like they say, al, if you want to grow up to be a frog, the best

way to do it, is just to be TRUE to your own toad self and let Nature

take its course.

 

Mr. toadiE

 

 

 

 

 

 

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