Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Ask yourself right now: Do I exist? HOW do you KNOW THAT you Are? Who Knows? Who sees? What is that, which sees? Where is it? There is … Knowingness . . . yes? That clear empty Space before Space-Time in which I am You Are mind-body- world ... all that is … appears. " Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain Silent " ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein All concepts, words, letters, thoughts, are simply appearing ... NONE of those can BE That which they describe, can they? Then what are we? One-ness Loving Itself as All-ness? Only a fool like me would try to say anything about THAT. There simply ain't No Way Jose' ?! Charlie Hayes www.AwakeningToTheEternal.org Telephone 1-714-708-2311 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > Ask yourself right now: Do I exist? > > HOW do you KNOW THAT you Are? > > > Who Knows? Who sees? > > What is that, which sees? > > > > Where is it? > > > > There is … Knowingness . . . yes? > > > > That clear empty Space before Space-Time > > in which I am You Are mind-body- > > world ... all that is … appears. > > > > > > " Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain Silent " ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > All concepts, words, letters, thoughts, are simply appearing ... NONE of those can BE That which they describe, can they? > > > > Then what are we? One-ness Loving Itself as All-ness? Only a fool like me would try to say anything about THAT. There simply ain't No Way Jose' ?! > > Charlie, It's not you....... who speaks. .......and then ponders the futility of speaking. toombaru > > Charlie Hayes > www.AwakeningToTheEternal.org > > > Telephone 1-714-708-2311 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > Ask yourself right now: Do I exist? > > > > HOW do you KNOW THAT you Are? > > > > > > Who Knows? Who sees? > > > > What is that, which sees? > > > > > > > > Where is it? > > > > > > > > There is … Knowingness . . . yes? > > > > > > > > That clear empty Space before Space-Time > > > > in which I am You Are mind-body- > > > > world ... all that is … appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain Silent " ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > All concepts, words, letters, thoughts, are simply appearing ... NONE of those can BE That which they describe, can they? > > > > > > > > Then what are we? One-ness Loving Itself as All-ness? Only a fool like me would try to say anything about THAT. There simply ain't No Way Jose' ?! > > > > > > > Charlie, > > > > > It's not you....... who speaks. > > ......and then ponders the futility of speaking. > > > > > toombaru > > > > > ........speaking happens...and a phantom like creature emerges from the shadows.......is given a name....and begins to stack the words into a temoprary enclosure. ....it spends its allotted time.....safely surrounded by a semi-permeable membrain....woven solely of concepts. toombaru > > > > > > > Charlie Hayes > > www.AwakeningToTheEternal.org > > > > > > Telephone 1-714-708-2311 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Friday, April 22, 2005 10:56 AM Re: knowing-ness Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > Ask yourself right now: Do I exist? > > HOW do you KNOW THAT you Are? > > > Who Knows? Who sees? > > What is that, which sees? > > > > Where is it? > > > > There is . Knowingness . . . yes? > > > > That clear empty Space before Space-Time > > in which I am You Are mind-body- > > world ... all that is . appears. > > > > > > " Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain Silent " ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > All concepts, words, letters, thoughts, are simply appearing ... NONE of those can BE That which they describe, can they? > > > > Then what are we? One-ness Loving Itself as All-ness? Only a fool like me would try to say anything about THAT. There simply ain't No Way Jose' ?! > > Charlie, It's not you....... who speaks. ......and then ponders the futility of speaking. toombaru Charlie, what would 'charlie' speak if 'Speaking' spoke thru 'Charlie'? loretta > > Charlie Hayes > www.AwakeningToTheEternal.org > > > Telephone 1-714-708-2311 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > > Ask yourself right now: Do I exist? > > > > > > HOW do you KNOW THAT you Are? > > > > > > > > > Who Knows? Who sees? > > > > > > What is that, which sees? > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is it? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is … Knowingness . . . yes? > > > > > > > > > > > > That clear empty Space before Space-Time > > > > > > in which I am You Are mind-body- > > > > > > world ... all that is … appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain Silent " ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > All concepts, words, letters, thoughts, are simply appearing ... NONE of those can BE That which they describe, can they? > > > > > > > > > > > > Then what are we? One-ness Loving Itself as All-ness? Only a fool like me would try to say anything about THAT. There simply ain't No Way Jose' ?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charlie, > > > > > > > > > > It's not you....... who speaks. > > > > ......and then ponders the futility of speaking. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > .......speaking happens...and a phantom like creature emerges from the shadows.......is given a name....and begins to stack the words into a temoprary enclosure. > > ...it spends its allotted time.....safely surrounded by a semi-permeable membrain....woven solely of concepts. > .........it lives in constant fear......as well it should....it is...in fact very vulnerable....both physically...and psychologically. it will attact any perceived threat.....it will send its very own children off to war to defend its imaginary kingdom. it should indeed be thankful........that it has no substantial reality. (Now.......don't start the zombee-like whiney-whimpering about how real you are!) > toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 R O T F L L M A O :-))))) 'I' shall sell three Cadillact this weekend maybe MORE Yee ha lifing is good toombaru2004 <cptc wrote: Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > > Ask yourself right now: Do I exist? > > > > > > HOW do you KNOW THAT you Are? > > > > > > > > > Who Knows? Who sees? > > > > > > What is that, which sees? > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is it? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is … Knowingness . . . yes? > > > > > > > > > > > > That clear empty Space before Space-Time > > > > > > in which I am You Are mind-body- > > > > > > world ... all that is … appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain Silent " ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > All concepts, words, letters, thoughts, are simply appearing ... NONE of those can BE That which they describe, can they? > > > > > > > > > > > > Then what are we? One-ness Loving Itself as All-ness? Only a fool like me would try to say anything about THAT. There simply ain't No Way Jose' ?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charlie, > > > > > > > > > > It's not you....... who speaks. > > > > ......and then ponders the futility of speaking. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > .......speaking happens...and a phantom like creature emerges from the shadows.......is given a name....and begins to stack the words into a temoprary enclosure. > > ...it spends its allotted time.....safely surrounded by a semi-permeable membrain....woven solely of concepts. > .........it lives in constant fear......as well it should....it is...in fact very vulnerable....both physically...and psychologically. it will attact any perceived threat.....it will send its very own children off to war to defend its imaginary kingdom. it should indeed be thankful........that it has no substantial reality. (Now.......don't start the zombee-like whiney-whimpering about how real you are!) > toombaru ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Anna Ruiz <nli10u wrote: Charlie, It's not you....... who speaks. ......and then ponders the futility of speaking. toombaru Charlie, what would 'charlie' speak if 'Speaking' spoke thru 'Charlie'? loretta T H I S Charlie Hayes www.AwakeningToTheEternal.org Telephone 1-714-708-2311 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 The entire universe, past, present, and future, and all the events and relationships in it -- is spoken at once as a single word. To know this, swallow the entire universe without involving any activity on your part whatsoever. Now, silence. -- Dan (nothing new below) Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > > > Anna Ruiz <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Charlie, > > > > > It's not you....... who speaks. > > ......and then ponders the futility of speaking. > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Charlie, > what would 'charlie' speak if 'Speaking' > spoke thru 'Charlie'? > > loretta > > > > > T H I S > > > Charlie Hayes > www.AwakeningToTheEternal.org > > > Telephone 1-714-708-2311 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > R O T F L > L M A O > > :-))))) > > 'I' shall sell three Cadillact this weekend maybe MORE > > Yee ha > > lifing is good > Surrounding your self in parentheses.......is merely a more subtle a claim of autonomy. " Lifing " is terror....when experienced through the I-s of assumed isolation. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 speak for yourself toomby toombaru2004 <cptc wrote: Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > R O T F L > L M A O > > :-))))) > > 'I' shall sell three Cadillact this weekend maybe MORE > > Yee ha > > lifing is good > Surrounding your self in parentheses.......is merely a more subtle a claim of autonomy. " Lifing " is terror....when experienced through the I-s of assumed isolation. toombaru ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > speak for yourself toomby. ........you mean.........I can't speak for anyone else? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Friday, April 22, 2005 12:14 PM Re: knowing-ness Nisargadatta , Charlie Hayes <chreiki3> wrote: > R O T F L > L M A O > > :-))))) > > 'I' shall sell three Cadillact this weekend maybe MORE > > Yee ha > > lifing is good > Surrounding your self in parentheses.......is merely a more subtle a claim of autonomy. " Lifing " is terror....when experienced through the I-s of assumed isolation. toombaru Charlie: Cadillac-t (?) hmmm? Toomey: you are hereby banished....) men!!!! later, cause if i don't sell something over this weekend, no thing is really going to be nothing.) (anna shrugged and became loretta, I may evolve a Mae West, come up and see, me sometime:)))) ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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