Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Hi everyone, What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? Ragards, Jean, Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > Ragards, > > > Jean, Canada There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for breakfast! You are indestructible Love. People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Monday, April 25, 2005 7:37 AM Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > Ragards, > > > Jean, Canada There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for breakfast! You are indestructible Love. People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! al. over my right shoulder, just past this moment, is the Before, what it was i remember as in a nightmare in the lingering of love destructing itself in memories... a cold grey prison of you and me, of saints and sinners... ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Jean, I have to confess that all this polemic has made him more attractive to me as " teacher " than earlier. I've never met him personally. There are several earlier readable publications of and about his teachings but the standard has sunk since, I guess, Wayne edits his books. I am as a matter of fact and almost always more interested in teachings than in the personality of the teacher. Nobody is perfect but, a teaching can almost be perfect: see Buddha, Jesus, Sutras, Upanishads or whatever. Ramesh had and has some good points. That's all. He might do whatever he likes with his life. I can judge a teaching but I restrain as a general rule from judging the teacher in his personality, passions or desires. I find the whole discussion childish and hysterical; there are laws and courts even in India. cordially, Kip Almazy Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > Ragards, > > > Jean, Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, April 25, 2005 7:37 AM > Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > al. > > > over my right shoulder, just past this moment, is the Before, > what it was i remember as in a nightmare in the lingering of love > destructing itself in memories... > a cold grey prison > of you and me, of saints and sinners... > Ah, you seem to have stepped up a step from the ocean of chaos. I see myself as complexity piercing itself through an immensely dense jungle of possibilities. That vision is very strong and makes you able to eat all the chaos that surrounds you. The chaos becomes food! The chaos becomes newness! Complexity knows itself so it knows how to choose from an infinite set of possibilites in each moment. " I want THIS " it says, and " I want THAT " . Bring it on, bring it on! My appetite is endless. I create order out of chaos. I am the SITH Lord and a Jedi Knight in one person. :-) al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Monday, April 25, 2005 8:50 AM Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, April 25, 2005 7:37 AM > Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > al. > > > over my right shoulder, just past this moment, is the Before, > what it was i remember as in a nightmare in the lingering of love > destructing itself in memories... > a cold grey prison > of you and me, of saints and sinners... > Ah, you seem to have stepped up a step from the ocean of chaos. I see myself as complexity piercing itself through an immensely dense jungle of possibilities. That vision is very strong and makes you able to eat all the chaos that surrounds you. The chaos becomes food! The chaos becomes newness! Complexity knows itself so it knows how to choose from an infinite set of possibilites in each moment. " I want THIS " it says, and " I want THAT " . Bring it on, bring it on! My appetite is endless. I create order out of chaos. I am the SITH Lord and a Jedi Knight in one person. :-) al. and I lay down my double-edged sword, a blinding goldness I had polished feverishly, fervently dispassionately, this obligatory creation this infinity of chaos this Lord and Master --myself at Your feet oh Jedi Knight, Come over to This side with me and we'll climb newer mountains and swim newer oceans and walk newer paths in wonderment and curiosity---our new human bodies sprinkled with ashes of angels.. and words of sages. a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, April 25, 2005 8:50 AM > Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > - > > anders_lindman > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, April 25, 2005 7:37 AM > > Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " > <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > > > al. > > > > > > over my right shoulder, just past this moment, is the Before, > > what it was i remember as in a nightmare in the lingering of love > > destructing itself in memories... > > a cold grey prison > > of you and me, of saints and sinners... > > > > > Ah, you seem to have stepped up a step from the ocean of chaos. I see > myself as complexity piercing itself through an immensely dense jungle > of possibilities. That vision is very strong and makes you able to eat > all the chaos that surrounds you. The chaos becomes food! The chaos > becomes newness! Complexity knows itself so it knows how to choose > from an infinite set of possibilites in each moment. " I want THIS " it > says, and " I want THAT " . Bring it on, bring it on! My appetite is > endless. I create order out of chaos. I am the SITH Lord and a Jedi > Knight in one person. :-) > > al. > > > and I lay down my double-edged sword, > a blinding goldness I had polished feverishly, fervently > dispassionately, > this obligatory creation > this infinity of chaos > this Lord and Master > --myself > at Your feet oh Jedi Knight, > > Come over to This side > with me and we'll climb newer mountains and swim newer oceans > and walk newer paths > > in wonderment and curiosity---our > new human bodies sprinkled with ashes of angels.. > > and words of sages. > > a. > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > Ragards, > > > Jean, Canada People expect their religious leaders (yes...for most folks...sages are religious leaders) to somehow transcend the the physical world....you know be more like the god they mutually agree on. Did you see Jeb Bush swoon and fall to his knees in front of the new pope? But when the " leader " falls short......you know pulls a Jimmy Baker...or a Jimmy Swagwart.....a Jessey Jackson.....or a Ramesh Balsekar.....these devoted fans.....suffer all of the withdrawel symptoms of any addict.....and take their infantile angst out on the poor transgressor. Well grow up folks..... There are no saints. Mother Teresa was a fake and a fraud.....The new pope was a member of Hitler's Youth Group......and the present Governor of California was a womanizer. Washing some other meat-monkey's feet........ will not open the gates of heaven. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > .... > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about me as an umoved mover. I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ... > > > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. > > > PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I > never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. > Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about > me as an umoved mover. > > I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved > mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. > > al. Walkin the thin line are ya laddie? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 - anders_lindman Nisargadatta Monday, April 25, 2005 12:10 PM Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > ... > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about me as an umoved mover. I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. al. Note to Al: Take nothing seriously, enjoy yourself 'cause This is all there is--once one gets out of one's head or a**; but I like poetic ramblings and spirit liftings and cherry Garcia ice cream, and lots and lots of other things and other such stuff of imaginings.... (oh, and one must render to Caesar..) Love, Anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > al. I couldn't have said it better myself... Yours, fuzzie P.S. What happened, anyway? Did Ramesh get laid? Oh, my God, help us all... help me, Jeebus!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. > > > > > > PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I > > never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. > > Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about > > me as an umoved mover. > > > > I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved > > mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. > > > > al. > > > > > Walkin the thin line are ya laddie? > > > toombaru I think I begin to understand why it is so difficult to realize oneness. This stuff is scary as hell! al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > anders_lindman > Nisargadatta > Monday, April 25, 2005 12:10 PM > Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > ... > > > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. > > > PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I > never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. > Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about > me as an umoved mover. > > I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved > mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. > > al. > > Note to Al: Take nothing seriously, > enjoy yourself 'cause This is all there is--once one gets out of one's head > or a**; but I like poetic ramblings and spirit liftings and cherry Garcia ice cream, and lots and lots of other things and other such stuff of imaginings.... > > (oh, and one must render to Caesar..) > > Love, Anna > > Yeah, that's probably a good idea, this thinking about oneness is starting to freak me out. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > > > al. > > > I couldn't have said it better myself... > > > > Yours, > > fuzzie > > P.S. What happened, anyway? Did Ramesh get laid? Oh, my God, help us > all... help me, Jeebus!!! I don't know what happened. Was he taken away by the police? Like Michael Jackson ( " You know I'm bad, I'm bad, you know it... [to which some may reply 'no, I didn't know that, but now I do'] " ) Just kidding a bit here. I think Michael Jackson is a great star. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > Ragards, > > > Jean, Canada Sam: I liked al's answer. People do put their religious leaders (especially the eastern ones) on mighty high pedestals. Heaven help them if they ever give way to sexual tendencies. (they aren't allowed that little human tendancy.) I remember the kaffufel around Yogananda's alleged sexual dalliance. Wow, you'd think he'd have just killed someone. The guy just wanted a little of that sexual healin, (ala Marvin Gay's old song.) Now this Sai Baba business of pedophilia issue is more of a social kaffufel so is that what your talking about? That and Balsekar's seemingly approval/defense of Sai Baba's lust for young boys? And Wayne's seemingly defense/approval of Balsekars defense/approval of Sai Baba and his own sexual liasons. It seems that the easterners deem Sai Baba as a god (an incarnation of Shiva). They don't want to think their god could have a sex addiction to little boys. Balsekar sounds like he doesn't think of it in that light. Maybe he thinks that the world needs to move into hetersexuallity -all is love and love all theme - literally on all levels. Maybe the gods just need a good spanking >:^) Where would the spicy human drama be if it was all vanilla. EveryOne would get bored to tears. They'd get up and leave during the first act of the play. Maybe you should get the info straight from the horses mouth though rather than 2nd hand info from know nots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. > > > > > > > > > PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I > > > never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. > > > Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about > > > me as an umoved mover. > > > > > > I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved > > > mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > Walkin the thin line are ya laddie? > > > > > > toombaru > > > I think I begin to understand why it is so difficult to realize > oneness. This stuff is scary as hell! > > al. As well it should be...to the identified entity. .......Nothing to gain...everything to loose....LOL toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > > > > > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > > > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > > > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > > > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > > > > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > > > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > > > > > al. > > > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself... > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie > > > > P.S. What happened, anyway? Did Ramesh get laid? Oh, my God, help us > > all... help me, Jeebus!!! > > > > I don't know what happened. Was he taken away by the police? Like > Michael Jackson ( " You know I'm bad, I'm bad, you know it... [to which > some may reply 'no, I didn't know that, but now I do'] " ) Just kidding > a bit here. I think Michael Jackson is a great star. > > al. Michael Jackson is just one of six billion.... or so..... meat monkies through whom consciousness sings....dances......and molests little boys. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Monday, April 25, 2005 2:25 PM Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > > > > > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > > > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > > > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > > > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > > > > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > > > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > > > > > al. > > > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself... > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie > > > > P.S. What happened, anyway? Did Ramesh get laid? Oh, my God, help us > > all... help me, Jeebus!!! > > > > I don't know what happened. Was he taken away by the police? Like > Michael Jackson ( " You know I'm bad, I'm bad, you know it... [to which > some may reply 'no, I didn't know that, but now I do'] " ) Just kidding > a bit here. I think Michael Jackson is a great star. > > al. Michael Jackson is just one of six billion.... or so..... meat monkies through whom consciousness sings....dances......and molests little boys. toombaru Meat monkies, singing dancing or non singing non dancing, gurus, sages, partial-enlightened/enlightened list writers----If all is One or so I've heard from every talk of talk talked---why the surprise? It is at it is, always was, always will be, so what's new under the sun? Just more talk, a slight variation on spin -- a mouthful of garbage either way and God help me, I've ready to go back on bended knee and ask forgiveness at Judi's ranch for whatever I did wrong to be ousted, maybe that would be something new under the sun.... there is no sanctuary where kindness is found except in absolute silence and yet I don't want to be alone in it. Must be a heavenly alignment or something even more simple...the smell of an apple rotting in the garden.... so what to do, what to do? i think this is where i came in and 'anna's party' is over.....was nice while it lasted....(the judester was right! and it wasn't with a punch or a kiss!) goodbye!!!!! (go ahead, hit that button, you coward, you dullard, you meat-monkey, you wanna-be human wrapped in tin foil, you tasted freedom and you came back again and again, and I guarantee you'll do it once more, FOAD) was it good for you Judi? ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 - Anna Ruiz Nisargadatta Monday, April 25, 2005 2:58 PM Re: Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! - toombaru2004 Nisargadatta Monday, April 25, 2005 2:25 PM Re: Ramesh Balsekar'affair.....Disrupting!!!! Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > > > > > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > > > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > > > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > > > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > > > > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > > > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > > > > > al. > > > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself... > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie > > > > P.S. What happened, anyway? Did Ramesh get laid? Oh, my God, help us > > all... help me, Jeebus!!! > > > > I don't know what happened. Was he taken away by the police? Like > Michael Jackson ( " You know I'm bad, I'm bad, you know it... [to which > some may reply 'no, I didn't know that, but now I do'] " ) Just kidding > a bit here. I think Michael Jackson is a great star. > > al. Michael Jackson is just one of six billion.... or so..... meat monkies through whom consciousness sings....dances......and molests little boys. toombaru Meat monkies, singing dancing or non singing non dancing, gurus, sages, partial-enlightened/enlightened list writers----If all is One or so I've heard from every talk of talk talked---why the surprise? It is at it is, always was, always will be, so what's new under the sun? Just more talk, a slight variation on spin -- a mouthful of garbage either way and God help me, I've ready to go back on bended knee and ask forgiveness at Judi's ranch for whatever I did wrong to be ousted, maybe that would be something new under the sun.... there is no sanctuary where kindness is found except in absolute silence and yet I don't want to be alone in it. Must be a heavenly alignment or something even more simple...the smell of an apple rotting in the garden.... so what to do, what to do? i think this is where i came in and 'anna's party' is over.....was nice while it lasted....(the judester was right! and it wasn't with a punch or a kiss!) goodbye!!!!! (go ahead, hit that button, you coward, you dullard, you meat-monkey, you wanna-be human wrapped in tin foil, you tasted freedom and you came back again and again, and I guarantee you'll do it once more, FOAD) was it good for you Judi? I almost forgot, Judi, gassho a. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > I never go anywhere. I am the unmoved mover. > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. But I must confess that this idea is a bit weird, because if I > > > > never move, then it must be that the entire universe is moved by me. > > > > Hmm... No wonder why I began feeling a bit lonely when thinking about > > > > me as an umoved mover. > > > > > > > > I think I will go back to my identity as a separate ego. This unmoved > > > > mover bit is a bit too spooky when taken too seriously. > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Walkin the thin line are ya laddie? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > I think I begin to understand why it is so difficult to realize > > oneness. This stuff is scary as hell! > > > > al. > > > > As well it should be...to the identified entity. > > > ......Nothing to gain...everything to loose....LOL > > > toombaru Yes, I think I have groked what Nisargadatta was saying: we are the One Life itself. Our bodies are parts of the movie called life, but we are not the movie, we are the One Producer and Watcher of this movie, what Nis called limitless being. Now, I am beginning to become a bit less scared. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jsto12005 " <jeanst_onge@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes concerning the > > > > > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on Inner Quest ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ragards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean, Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > There is only One One. You are that One. Ramesh and Wayne are utter > > > > illusions. They don't exist! Let the world come crashing down on you. > > > > You are the Central Sun, the unmoved mover. You _eat_ entropy for > > > > breakfast! You are indestructible Love. > > > > > > > > People you see around you are not people at all, they are semi-apes, a > > > > feverish imagination in your lingering nightmare! > > > > > > > > al. > > > > > > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself... > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > > > P.S. What happened, anyway? Did Ramesh get laid? Oh, my God, help us > > > all... help me, Jeebus!!! > > > > > > > > I don't know what happened. Was he taken away by the police? Like > > Michael Jackson ( " You know I'm bad, I'm bad, you know it... [to which > > some may reply 'no, I didn't know that, but now I do'] " ) Just kidding > > a bit here. I think Michael Jackson is a great star. > > > > al. > > > Michael Jackson is just one of six billion.... or so..... meat monkies through whom > consciousness sings....dances......and molests little boys. > > > > toombaru Yes, these meat vehicles, seemingly so real are only parts of the movie! We procuce the movie, and We watch the movie. We have made a big mistake and taken ourselves to be the movie, because We can only see what is _not_ us. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 --- jsto12005 <jeanst_onge wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > What do you think about these dazzling criticizes > concerning the > matter " Ramesh Balsekar " and Wayne Liquorman on > Inner Quest ???? > > > > Ragards, > > > Jean, Canada > > The drama is great for those who do not understand the teaching as told by Ramesh.As Ramesh would probably respond, Who is doing the criticising. Yes Martha,its a wonderful life. Peace , Douglas.............. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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