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Let's say that you are love. What would you do then? As a tiny seed of

love surrounded by all kinds of chaos, what would you do? You may say

" I want this " , and the universe says: " No, you don't " , and then you

say " But I want that, can't I at least have that? " , and the universe

replies, " No, you can't " . Why? Because you _are_ love. Anything you

want will be not love. As love you don't ask the universe for things,

you _select_ from the universe moment by moment. You can't select what

you want, because that is not awailable; you can only select directly

from the many things the universe has to offer moment by moment.

 

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Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman "

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> Let's say that you are love. What would you do then? As a tiny seed of

> love surrounded by all kinds of chaos, what would you do? You may say

 

then , you get out of the way of love.

 

this chaos is the result of the superimposition of innumerable free

wills and more. it is the way it is because of causes. it is easy to

complain about the chaos but hard to change the seed.

 

sartre said " hell is other people " .

 

> " I want this " , and the universe says: " No, you don't " , and then you

> say " But I want that, can't I at least have that? " , and the universe

 

either the event you wished for happens or it does not happen. if it

happens you know " the event i wished for has materialized " . otherwise

you know " the event i wished for did not materialize " .

 

this is past.

 

either way you move on and stay in the present.

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Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman "

> <anders_lindman> wrote:

> >

> > Let's say that you are love. What would you do then? As a tiny seed of

> > love surrounded by all kinds of chaos, what would you do? You may say

>

> then , you get out of the way of love.

>

> this chaos is the result of the superimposition of innumerable free

> wills and more. it is the way it is because of causes. it is easy to

> complain about the chaos but hard to change the seed.

>

> sartre said " hell is other people " .

>

> > " I want this " , and the universe says: " No, you don't " , and then you

> > say " But I want that, can't I at least have that? " , and the universe

>

> either the event you wished for happens or it does not happen. if it

> happens you know " the event i wished for has materialized " . otherwise

> you know " the event i wished for did not materialize " .

>

> this is past.

>

> either way you move on and stay in the present.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is not your inability to manipulate events that is your problem.

 

 

The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an autonomous self who

manipulates,.......

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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> The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an autonomous self

who manipulates,.......

>

 

can you see thru my eyes?

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Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> >

>

> > The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an autonomous self

> who manipulates,.......

> >

>

> can you see thru my eyes?

 

 

Your eyes?

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

<hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> > >

> >

> > > The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an autonomous self

> > who manipulates,.......

> > >

> >

> > can you see thru my eyes?

>

>

> Your eyes?

 

yes. _these_ eyes i am using to read this message.

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Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

> <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an autonomous self

> > > who manipulates,.......

> > > >

> > >

> > > can you see thru my eyes?

> >

> >

> > Your eyes?

>

> yes. _these_ eyes i am using to read this message.

 

 

 

Ok.....and would that be your brain that translstes and compares those little

squiggles with its own references......and that body that housed that brain you

call yours......Is that yours?

 

What about the desk this body is sitting at.......yours....right?

 

and that house around all that stuff.......is that yours?......and the town

where that little house sits........Is that yours too?

 

 

and the country too?

 

All yours?

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

<hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

> > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 "

<cptc@w...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an

autonomous self

> > > > who manipulates,.......

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > can you see thru my eyes?

> > >

> > >

> > > Your eyes?

> >

> > yes. _these_ eyes i am using to read this message.

>

>

>

> Ok.....and would that be your brain that translstes and compares

those little squiggles with its own references......and that body that

housed that brain you call yours......Is that yours?

>

> What about the desk this body is sitting at.......yours....right?

>

> and that house around all that stuff.......is that yours?......and

the town where that little house sits........Is that yours too?

>

>

> and the country too?

>

> All yours?

>

not so fast.

 

just stay at the connection between the life force and the body. this

connection was given, and is not a legal construct.

 

can you use these organs connected to the life force that i am ?

 

can you access the memories that are my mind?

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Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

> <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

> > > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 "

> <cptc@w...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The difficulty arises from the the assumption of an

> autonomous self

> > > > > who manipulates,.......

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > can you see thru my eyes?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Your eyes?

> > >

> > > yes. _these_ eyes i am using to read this message.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok.....and would that be your brain that translstes and compares

> those little squiggles with its own references......and that body that

> housed that brain you call yours......Is that yours?

> >

> > What about the desk this body is sitting at.......yours....right?

> >

> > and that house around all that stuff.......is that yours?......and

> the town where that little house sits........Is that yours too?

> >

> >

> > and the country too?

> >

> > All yours?

> >

> not so fast.

>

> just stay at the connection between the life force and the body. this

> connection was given, and is not a legal construct.

>

> can you use these organs connected to the life force that i am ?

>

> can you access the memories that are my mind?

 

 

 

 

There you go with that my stuff again.

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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>

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> There you go with that my stuff again.

>

ahem, i thought " I " was " you " so how come we disagree?

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Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:04 PM

Re: If you are love

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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>

>

> There you go with that my stuff again.

>

ahem, i thought " I " was " you " so how come we disagree?

 

if i/I may...in the thinking of two there is always a possibility of

disagreement.

(toombaru, don't even start....)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > There you go with that my stuff again.

> >

> ahem, i thought " I " was " you " so how come we disagree?

 

 

 

 

 

Within each " self " are endless disagreements.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 "

<hemantbhai100@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There you go with that my stuff again.

> > >

> > ahem, i thought " I " was " you " so how come we disagree?

>

>

>

>

>

> Within each " self " are endless disagreements.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

But also endless agreements.

 

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