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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

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> Hi Fleming,

>

> There is nothing to disagree, I absolutely go with you.

>

> When one sees that society is the result of socialisation which is a

> child's efforts to overcome isolation and these efforts are to get

> accepted, to get comforted, to get approval etc, then in addition

one

> sees society mainly is children playing in a sandpit having fun and

> taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights and

> violence.

>

> Werner

>

 

 

sam: you have such a way with words too.

 

to overcome isolation = the void Page 1

 

efforts to get accepted/comforted/approval = love Page 2

 

taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights and

violence = love (still on page 2 but with accentuating emphasis on

the hate/anger aspect of love as opposed to the warm embracing " let's

talk it out " aspect of love.)

 

Well, it's either that or back to the void, which takes one back to

isolation = void which is back to page 1.

 

Let it be, let it be, let it be aaaah let it be. Speaking words of

wisdom, let it beeeeeeee.

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Sam, what ?

 

I don't understand what you meant. Whats going on with void, page 1

and 2 ?

 

Any ìdea ?

 

Werner

 

 

Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

> wrote:

> > Hi Fleming,

> >

> > There is nothing to disagree, I absolutely go with you.

> >

> > When one sees that society is the result of socialisation which

is a

> > child's efforts to overcome isolation and these efforts are to

get

> > accepted, to get comforted, to get approval etc, then in addition

> one

> > sees society mainly is children playing in a sandpit having fun

and

> > taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights and

> > violence.

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

> sam: you have such a way with words too.

>

> to overcome isolation = the void Page 1

>

> efforts to get accepted/comforted/approval = love Page 2

>

> taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights and

> violence = love (still on page 2 but with accentuating emphasis on

> the hate/anger aspect of love as opposed to the warm

embracing " let's

> talk it out " aspect of love.)

>

> Well, it's either that or back to the void, which takes one back to

> isolation = void which is back to page 1.

>

> Let it be, let it be, let it be aaaah let it be. Speaking words of

> wisdom, let it beeeeeeee.

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

> Sam, what ?

>

> I don't understand what you meant. Whats going on with void, page

1

> and 2 ?

>

> Any ìdea ?

>

> Werner

>

 

 

sam: you would have had to been following anna and my conversation

re judi and the pages of her book to follow that one. Don't forget

your road map cuz that conversation was a little tricky manoevering

around those hairpin turns. As far as " any idea " goes, there all

ideas. Or as I often like to say, " ideas are like assholes -

everyone's got one and nobody thinks there's stink. "

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7>

wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr "

<wwoehr@p...>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Fleming,

> > >

> > > There is nothing to disagree, I absolutely go with you.

> > >

> > > When one sees that society is the result of socialisation

which

> is a

> > > child's efforts to overcome isolation and these efforts are to

> get

> > > accepted, to get comforted, to get approval etc, then in

addition

> > one

> > > sees society mainly is children playing in a sandpit having

fun

> and

> > > taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights

and

> > > violence.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> >

> > sam: you have such a way with words too.

> >

> > to overcome isolation = the void Page 1

> >

> > efforts to get accepted/comforted/approval = love Page 2

> >

> > taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights

and

> > violence = love (still on page 2 but with accentuating emphasis

on

> > the hate/anger aspect of love as opposed to the warm

> embracing " let's

> > talk it out " aspect of love.)

> >

> > Well, it's either that or back to the void, which takes one back

to

> > isolation = void which is back to page 1.

> >

> > Let it be, let it be, let it be aaaah let it be. Speaking words

of

> > wisdom, let it beeeeeeee.

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Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:42 AM

Re: When Judi Bounced Anna - werner/flemming

 

 

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

> Hi Fleming,

>

> There is nothing to disagree, I absolutely go with you.

>

> When one sees that society is the result of socialisation which is a

> child's efforts to overcome isolation and these efforts are to get

> accepted, to get comforted, to get approval etc, then in addition

one

> sees society mainly is children playing in a sandpit having fun and

> taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights and

> violence.

>

> Werner

>

 

 

sam: you have such a way with words too.

 

to overcome isolation = the void Page 1

 

efforts to get accepted/comforted/approval = love Page 2

 

taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights and

violence = love (still on page 2 but with accentuating emphasis on

the hate/anger aspect of love as opposed to the warm embracing " let's

talk it out " aspect of love.)

 

Well, it's either that or back to the void, which takes one back to

isolation = void which is back to page 1.

 

Let it be, let it be, let it be aaaah let it be. Speaking words of

wisdom, let it beeeeeeee.

 

 

 

speaking words of wisdom, let it Be

(it always is anyway:))

 

still, Imagine, there's no heaven...

 

and the world will live as one...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ok Sam,

 

Yes I am not uptodate, thats true, I haven't read your exchanges with

Anna. But I like your asshole metaphor and I already copied it in my

collection " Famous Words " .

 

Werner

 

Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

> wrote:

> > Sam, what ?

> >

> > I don't understand what you meant. Whats going on with void, page

> 1

> > and 2 ?

> >

> > Any ìdea ?

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

> sam: you would have had to been following anna and my conversation

> re judi and the pages of her book to follow that one. Don't forget

> your road map cuz that conversation was a little tricky manoevering

> around those hairpin turns. As far as " any idea " goes, there all

> ideas. Or as I often like to say, " ideas are like assholes -

> everyone's got one and nobody thinks there's stink. "

>

>

>

>

> > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7>

> wrote:

> > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr "

> <wwoehr@p...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hi Fleming,

> > > >

> > > > There is nothing to disagree, I absolutely go with you.

> > > >

> > > > When one sees that society is the result of socialisation

> which

> > is a

> > > > child's efforts to overcome isolation and these efforts are

to

> > get

> > > > accepted, to get comforted, to get approval etc, then in

> addition

> > > one

> > > > sees society mainly is children playing in a sandpit having

> fun

> > and

> > > > taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights

> and

> > > > violence.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sam: you have such a way with words too.

> > >

> > > to overcome isolation = the void Page 1

> > >

> > > efforts to get accepted/comforted/approval = love Page 2

> > >

> > > taking away each other's toys with all those resulting fights

> and

> > > violence = love (still on page 2 but with accentuating

emphasis

> on

> > > the hate/anger aspect of love as opposed to the warm

> > embracing " let's

> > > talk it out " aspect of love.)

> > >

> > > Well, it's either that or back to the void, which takes one

back

> to

> > > isolation = void which is back to page 1.

> > >

> > > Let it be, let it be, let it be aaaah let it be. Speaking words

> of

> > > wisdom, let it beeeeeeee.

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