Thus Sayeth The Lord....The Lord of Hosts.....fuzzie

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

wrote:

>Regarding all this religious stuff: It looks to me like too much

pressure. See, I've been doing this self-enquiry thing real hard for

a

couple of years and I don't do much of nothing no more. And, that's

the way I like it. Low stress, ya dig? And, now that I'm realized, I

realize this is cool. And, even if it doesn't exist, like Toombaru

and

Pete and Werner and all them neo-Advaitin guys say, it's still cool.

So, what the hey? D'you know whatta mean?

 

I told Cobb just the other day I thought Ramana was a good role

model.

When Ramana got realized, he went up on the mountain and stayed up

there totally naked and didn't talk to nobody for years. There's a

lesson in that. He was a wise man.

 

Yours really,

 

fuzzie

 

 

 

sam: I'm often drawn to some mystical life of lounging naked in a

cave but I'm just too damn lazy to haul my ass to one and in the end

I simply don't care. I mean, I'm not terribly accepted among the

eastern groups becuz I'm so lazy that I don't even believe in

karma. I think that karma is a self made myth to keep people busy

and active. I just don't care about it.

 

ya know what? on Monday I was comparing myself to folks who race

around and I thought, sheesh, am I lazy or something? Well, actually

this was brought on by a jab from my niece who thinks I'm quite lazy

and boring becuz I'm not into all the career stuff and not into the

social whirl-a-gig. In other words, becuz I'm not like her. So, I

thought, well, I am what I am. So I asked my husband, who's opinion

is really the only ones I care about since we gotta live together,

and he doesn't think I'm lazy one little bit. Well, the niece at

least didn't call me that " a " word, no not asshole but apathetic.

Apathetic people are highly misunderstood.

 

So, my husbands response was good enough for me But then, after I

got off this board I somehow clicked onto a website with a Gita

called the Ashtavakra gita. Now, I'm not heavily into reading

things that are rife with mythology and stuff but my eyes were glued

to it so I did read. Well, this Gita totally acknowledges my

laziness as enlightened and transcendent so I'm now totally at peace

in this justification. It's like the guy who wrote that Gita eons

ago was actually me or something……. I mean I could have been reading

my own journal (if I actually wrote one) I had no idea that lack of

desire (which to others appears to translate as lazyness) was so

blessed, holy and transcendent. You may get a kick out of it

yourself.

 

Excerpts for your viewing pleasure:

 

~~~~~~~~

Ashtavakara:

The inner freedom of having nothing is hard to achieve, even with

just a loin-cloth, but I live as I please abandoning both

renunciation and acquisition. 13.1

 

Sometimes one experiences distress because of one's body, sometimes

because of one's tongue, and sometimes because of one's mind.

Abandoning all of these in the goal of being human I live as I

please. 13.2

Recognizing that in reality no action is ever committed, I live as I

please, just attending what presents itself to be done. 13.3

 

Mystics who identify themselves with bodies are insistent on

fulfilling and avoiding certain actions, but I live as I please

abandoning attachment and rejection. 13.4

 

No benefit or loss comes to me by standing, walking or lying down,

so consequently I live as I please whether standing, walking or

sleeping. 13.5

 

I lose nothing by sleeping and gain nothing by effort, so

consequently I live as I please, abandoning loss and success. 13.6

 

Continuously Observing the drawbacks of such things as pleasant

objects, I live as I please, abandoning the pleasant and unpleasant.

13.7

While a person of pure intelligence may achieve the goal by the most

casual of instructions, another may seek knowledge all one's life

and still remain bewildered. 15.1

 

Liberation is indifference to the objects of the senses. Bondage is

love of the senses. This is knowledge. Now do as you please. 15.2

 

This awareness of the truth makes an eloquent, clever and energetic

person dumb, stupid and lazy, so it is avoided by those whose aim is

enjoyment or praise. 15.3

 

You are not the body, nor is the body yours, nor are you the doer of

actions nor the reaper of their consequences. You are eternally pure

consciousness, the witness, in need of nothing - so live happily.

15.4

 

 

The body invested with the senses stands still and comes and goes.

You yourself neither come nor go, so why bother about them? 15.9

 

Let the body last to the end of the Age, or let it come to an end

right now. What have you, who consist of pure consciousness, gained

or lost? 15.10

 

Let the world-wave rise or subside according to its own nature in

you, the great ocean. It is no gain or loss to you. 15.11

 

My dearest, you consist of pure consciousness, and the world is not

separate from you. So who is to accept or reject it, and how, and

why? 15.12

 

How can there be either birth, karma or responsibility in that one

unchanging, peaceful, unblemished and infinite consciousness which

is you? 15.13

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

> wrote:

> >Regarding all this religious stuff: It looks to me like too much

> pressure. See, I've been doing this self-enquiry thing real hard for

> a

> couple of years and I don't do much of nothing no more. And, that's

> the way I like it. Low stress, ya dig? And, now that I'm realized, I

> realize this is cool. And, even if it doesn't exist, like Toombaru

> and

> Pete and Werner and all them neo-Advaitin guys say, it's still cool.

> So, what the hey? D'you know whatta mean?

>

> I told Cobb just the other day I thought Ramana was a good role

> model.

> When Ramana got realized, he went up on the mountain and stayed up

> there totally naked and didn't talk to nobody for years. There's a

> lesson in that. He was a wise man.

>

> Yours really,

>

> fuzzie

>

>

>

> sam: I'm often drawn to some mystical life of lounging naked in a

> cave but I'm just too damn lazy to haul my ass to one and in the end

> I simply don't care. I mean, I'm not terribly accepted among the

> eastern groups becuz I'm so lazy that I don't even believe in

> karma. I think that karma is a self made myth to keep people busy

> and active. I just don't care about it.

>

> ya know what? on Monday I was comparing myself to folks who race

> around and I thought, sheesh, am I lazy or something? Well, actually

> this was brought on by a jab from my niece who thinks I'm quite lazy

> and boring becuz I'm not into all the career stuff and not into the

> social whirl-a-gig. In other words, becuz I'm not like her. So, I

> thought, well, I am what I am. So I asked my husband, who's opinion

> is really the only ones I care about since we gotta live together,

> and he doesn't think I'm lazy one little bit. Well, the niece at

> least didn't call me that " a " word, no not asshole but apathetic.

> Apathetic people are highly misunderstood.

>

> So, my husbands response was good enough for me But then, after I

> got off this board I somehow clicked onto a website with a Gita

> called the Ashtavakra gita. Now, I'm not heavily into reading

> things that are rife with mythology and stuff but my eyes were glued

> to it so I did read. Well, this Gita totally acknowledges my

> laziness as enlightened and transcendent so I'm now totally at peace

> in this justification. It's like the guy who wrote that Gita eons

> ago was actually me or something……. I mean I could have been reading

> my own journal (if I actually wrote one) I had no idea that lack of

> desire (which to others appears to translate as lazyness) was so

> blessed, holy and transcendent. You may get a kick out of it

> yourself.

 

Hi, Sam:

 

As long as you do what needs to be done, then, that is all you need to

do. People who are constantly looking for busy-work are simply trying

to escape their personal suffering through distraction. Distraction is

everywhere. It's most abundantly available. It's a multi-billion

dollar a year industry. Distractions-R-Us, Inc.

 

I've read quotes of the Ashtavakra Gita here and there. It sounds like

stuff I say. People will probably accuse me of memorizing it. Others

have accused me of memorizing Ramana or Shankara or a number of

others. But, it's just me talking extemporaneously. People pretty much

think whatever they want, facts or no facts, evidence or no evidence.

There isn't anything you can do about it. Just let it be.

 

Yours,

 

fuzzie

 

 

 

 

>

> Excerpts for your viewing pleasure:

>

> ~~~~~~~~

> Ashtavakara:

> The inner freedom of having nothing is hard to achieve, even with

> just a loin-cloth, but I live as I please abandoning both

> renunciation and acquisition. 13.1

>

> Sometimes one experiences distress because of one's body, sometimes

> because of one's tongue, and sometimes because of one's mind.

> Abandoning all of these in the goal of being human I live as I

> please. 13.2

> Recognizing that in reality no action is ever committed, I live as I

> please, just attending what presents itself to be done. 13.3

>

> Mystics who identify themselves with bodies are insistent on

> fulfilling and avoiding certain actions, but I live as I please

> abandoning attachment and rejection. 13.4

>

> No benefit or loss comes to me by standing, walking or lying down,

> so consequently I live as I please whether standing, walking or

> sleeping. 13.5

>

> I lose nothing by sleeping and gain nothing by effort, so

> consequently I live as I please, abandoning loss and success. 13.6

>

> Continuously Observing the drawbacks of such things as pleasant

> objects, I live as I please, abandoning the pleasant and unpleasant.

> 13.7

> While a person of pure intelligence may achieve the goal by the most

> casual of instructions, another may seek knowledge all one's life

> and still remain bewildered. 15.1

>

> Liberation is indifference to the objects of the senses. Bondage is

> love of the senses. This is knowledge. Now do as you please. 15.2

>

> This awareness of the truth makes an eloquent, clever and energetic

> person dumb, stupid and lazy, so it is avoided by those whose aim is

> enjoyment or praise. 15.3

>

> You are not the body, nor is the body yours, nor are you the doer of

> actions nor the reaper of their consequences. You are eternally pure

> consciousness, the witness, in need of nothing - so live happily.

> 15.4

>

>

> The body invested with the senses stands still and comes and goes.

> You yourself neither come nor go, so why bother about them? 15.9

>

> Let the body last to the end of the Age, or let it come to an end

> right now. What have you, who consist of pure consciousness, gained

> or lost? 15.10

>

> Let the world-wave rise or subside according to its own nature in

> you, the great ocean. It is no gain or loss to you. 15.11

>

> My dearest, you consist of pure consciousness, and the world is not

> separate from you. So who is to accept or reject it, and how, and

> why? 15.12

>

> How can there be either birth, karma or responsibility in that one

> unchanging, peaceful, unblemished and infinite consciousness which

> is you? 15.13

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

> > wrote:

> > >Regarding all this religious stuff: It looks to me like too much

> > pressure. See, I've been doing this self-enquiry thing real hard for

> > a

> > couple of years and I don't do much of nothing no more. And, that's

> > the way I like it. Low stress, ya dig? And, now that I'm realized, I

> > realize this is cool. And, even if it doesn't exist, like Toombaru

> > and

> > Pete and Werner and all them neo-Advaitin guys say, it's still cool.

> > So, what the hey? D'you know whatta mean?

> >

> > I told Cobb just the other day I thought Ramana was a good role

> > model.

> > When Ramana got realized, he went up on the mountain and stayed up

> > there totally naked and didn't talk to nobody for years. There's a

> > lesson in that. He was a wise man.

> >

> > Yours really,

> >

> > fuzzie

> >

> >

> >

> > sam: I'm often drawn to some mystical life of lounging naked in a

> > cave but I'm just too damn lazy to haul my ass to one and in the end

> > I simply don't care. I mean, I'm not terribly accepted among the

> > eastern groups becuz I'm so lazy that I don't even believe in

> > karma. I think that karma is a self made myth to keep people busy

> > and active. I just don't care about it.

> >

> > ya know what? on Monday I was comparing myself to folks who race

> > around and I thought, sheesh, am I lazy or something? Well, actually

> > this was brought on by a jab from my niece who thinks I'm quite lazy

> > and boring becuz I'm not into all the career stuff and not into the

> > social whirl-a-gig. In other words, becuz I'm not like her. So, I

> > thought, well, I am what I am. So I asked my husband, who's opinion

> > is really the only ones I care about since we gotta live together,

> > and he doesn't think I'm lazy one little bit. Well, the niece at

> > least didn't call me that " a " word, no not asshole but apathetic.

> > Apathetic people are highly misunderstood.

> >

> > So, my husbands response was good enough for me But then, after I

> > got off this board I somehow clicked onto a website with a Gita

> > called the Ashtavakra gita. Now, I'm not heavily into reading

> > things that are rife with mythology and stuff but my eyes were glued

> > to it so I did read. Well, this Gita totally acknowledges my

> > laziness as enlightened and transcendent so I'm now totally at peace

> > in this justification. It's like the guy who wrote that Gita eons

> > ago was actually me or something……. I mean I could have been reading

> > my own journal (if I actually wrote one) I had no idea that lack of

> > desire (which to others appears to translate as lazyness) was so

> > blessed, holy and transcendent. You may get a kick out of it

> > yourself.

>

> Hi, Sam:

>

> As long as you do what needs to be done, then, that is all you need to

> do.

 

 

Nope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

People who are constantly looking for busy-work are simply trying

> to escape their personal suffering through distraction. Distraction is

> everywhere. It's most abundantly available. It's a multi-billion

> dollar a year industry. Distractions-R-Us, Inc.

>

> I've read quotes of the Ashtavakra Gita here and there. It sounds like

> stuff I say. People will probably accuse me of memorizing it. Others

> have accused me of memorizing Ramana or Shankara or a number of

> others. But, it's just me talking extemporaneously. People pretty much

> think whatever they want, facts or no facts, evidence or no evidence.

> There isn't anything you can do about it. Just let it be.

>

> Yours,

>

> fuzzie

 

 

 

 

The effort to " let it be " ....is just another disguised attempt at doing.

 

 

toombaru