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> Though for some maybe a bit too daring an example or even

> inappropriate to bring up here, a good example is the experience of

> orgasmic bliss... brought about by masturbation (OK, OK, not

exactly

> the same as 'direct experience of Self') But hang in there... :))

No

> matter how moral interpretations and subsequent social and/or

> religious judgements attempt to make the 'practitioner' of

> masturbation feel guilty or uneasy to eventualy stop the practice,

the

> practice most often persists in spite of " whatever " , as in

principle

> the experience of orgasmic bliss is part of a whole spectrum of

bliss

> that bliss can be experienced as: from the subtlests and most

> spiritual to the most basic and physical.

>

> The same with the experience of the numinous, the sacred, the

wondrous

> and the mystical. It is the interpretations of them that make them

> unacceptable or even " impossible " to experience and if they do get

> experienced they are deemed deviated or wacko.

>

> Wim

>

 

 

sam: yep, I've always said, you can't stop " it " from doin' what It

does. Be it a body or any other form. Better to just let it be -

let it flow. You can corral the horses and tame them but sooner or

later they gotta run free.

 

Now, masterbation is one of my fave topics. NOthing is

inappropriate in my virtual reality. I can't contain it even when

I sleeep. I wake up in a physical orgasmic bliss many a night. It's

yummy. Problem with that is (yes, you'd think there wouldn't be a

problem with that but there is a downside) once you've had the

cosmic orgasm in your body it's terribly addictive. Kinda like a

drug and the downside being that no human man can measure up to the

cosmic orgasm. Hence the cosmic love aka cosmic orgasm seeking

begins.

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