Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 This is a Good Topic: After ariving by discrimination or any other way, to the point in which we understand that there is an I devoid of identification with any other thing... There is even the possibility of losing the I one finds as always being there. There is something bigger or wider than " always " , and it is " eternal " . Being from ever and for ever. And it is not the person who is that. The person is transient, the real Being is eternal. This Being is what one really is. From this Being the person arises, is sustained on it and rerturns to it. Being is Existence. Not existence of something, but pure existence devoid of qualities. This can be found out by experience, not by discrimination. Discrimination has to stop at some point. And it is in the I. Only when the I disappears, there is Consciousness of this vastness of Eternal Being. After this experience, there is no doubt about the nature of the I, self, time, space, consciousness, mind, etc. This happening occurs as a gap, a disappearance of movement, and cannot happen out of will. It happens on its own. We can go through understanding until this point were we recognise the I, devoid of the illusions created by the mind. But...there is this wonderful possibility of losing also this I... and remain as pure Consciousness-Existence. Then, real understanding occurs. The person is transient. Being is from ever and for ever. And that´s it. Very simple. The consequence...living Peace. In Joy , Cobb............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " chefboy2160 " <chefboy2160> wrote: > This is a Good Topic: > > After ariving by discrimination or any other way, > to the point in which we understand > that there is an I devoid of identification with any other thing... > > There is even the possibility of losing the I > one finds as always being there. > > There is something bigger or wider than " always " , and it > is " eternal " . > Being from ever and for ever. And it is not the person who is that. > > The person is transient, the real Being is eternal. > This Being is what one really is. > From this Being the person arises, > is sustained on it > and rerturns to it. > > Being is Existence. > Not existence of something, but pure existence devoid of qualities. > > This can be found out by experience, not by discrimination. > Discrimination has to stop at some point. And it is in the I. > Only when the I disappears, there is Consciousness > of this vastness of Eternal Being. > After this experience, there is no doubt about the nature of the I, > self, time, space, consciousness, mind, etc. > > This happening occurs as a gap, a disappearance of movement, > and cannot happen out of will. It happens on its own. > > We can go through understanding until this point were we recognise > the I, > devoid of the illusions created by the mind. > But...there is this wonderful possibility of losing also this I... > and remain as pure Consciousness-Existence. > > Then, real understanding occurs. > > The person is transient. Being is from ever and for ever. > > And that´s it. Very simple. > The consequence...living Peace. > > In Joy , Cobb............. And then recedes " real Being is eternal, " " pure existence devoid of qualities, " " Consciousness of this vastness of Eternal Being, " " pure Consciousness-Existence, " " Being is from ever and for ever, " living Peace. Understandings abate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 - Lewis Burgess Nisargadatta Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:31 AM Re: The 'I' Nisargadatta , " chefboy2160 " <chefboy2160> wrote: > This is a Good Topic: > > After ariving by discrimination or any other way, > to the point in which we understand > that there is an I devoid of identification with any other thing... > > There is even the possibility of losing the I > one finds as always being there. > > There is something bigger or wider than " always " , and it > is " eternal " . > Being from ever and for ever. And it is not the person who is that. > > The person is transient, the real Being is eternal. > This Being is what one really is. > From this Being the person arises, > is sustained on it > and rerturns to it. > > Being is Existence. > Not existence of something, but pure existence devoid of qualities. > > This can be found out by experience, not by discrimination. > Discrimination has to stop at some point. And it is in the I. > Only when the I disappears, there is Consciousness > of this vastness of Eternal Being. > After this experience, there is no doubt about the nature of the I, > self, time, space, consciousness, mind, etc. > > This happening occurs as a gap, a disappearance of movement, > and cannot happen out of will. It happens on its own. > > We can go through understanding until this point were we recognise > the I, > devoid of the illusions created by the mind. > But...there is this wonderful possibility of losing also this I... > and remain as pure Consciousness-Existence. > > Then, real understanding occurs. > > The person is transient. Being is from ever and for ever. > > And that´s it. Very simple. > The consequence...living Peace. > > In Joy , Cobb............. And then recedes " real Being is eternal, " " pure existence devoid of qualities, " " Consciousness of this vastness of Eternal Being, " " pure Consciousness-Existence, " " Being is from ever and for ever, " living Peace. Understandings abate. Being Is that which always was always will be, only " i " who thought different is Seen. This Being Seen, all moments arise and fall, all beings arise and fall, all thoughts arise and fall as Peace that " passeth understanding " . Anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Lewis Burgess " <lbb10@c...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " chefboy2160 " <chefboy2160> > wrote: > > This is a Good Topic: > > > > After ariving by discrimination or any other way, > > to the point in which we understand > > that there is an I devoid of identification with any other thing... > > > > There is even the possibility of losing the I > > one finds as always being there. > > > > There is something bigger or wider than " always " , and it > > is " eternal " . > > Being from ever and for ever. And it is not the person who is that. > > > > The person is transient, the real Being is eternal. > > This Being is what one really is. > > From this Being the person arises, > > is sustained on it > > and rerturns to it. > > > > Being is Existence. > > Not existence of something, but pure existence devoid of qualities. > > > > This can be found out by experience, not by discrimination. > > Discrimination has to stop at some point. And it is in the I. > > Only when the I disappears, there is Consciousness > > of this vastness of Eternal Being. > > After this experience, there is no doubt about the nature of the I, > > self, time, space, consciousness, mind, etc. > > > > This happening occurs as a gap, a disappearance of movement, > > and cannot happen out of will. It happens on its own. > > > > We can go through understanding until this point were we recognise > > the I, > > devoid of the illusions created by the mind. > > But...there is this wonderful possibility of losing also this I... > > and remain as pure Consciousness-Existence. > > > > Then, real understanding occurs. > > > > The person is transient. Being is from ever and for ever. > > > > And that´s it. Very simple. > > The consequence...living Peace. > > > > In Joy , Cobb............. > > > And then recedes " real Being is eternal, " " pure existence devoid of > qualities, " " Consciousness of this vastness of Eternal Being, " " pure > Consciousness-Existence, " " Being is from ever and for ever, " living > Peace. Understandings abate. So.......a finite brain can actually grasp infinity......Wow! toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > Lewis Burgess > Nisargadatta > Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:31 AM > Re: The 'I' > > > Nisargadatta , " chefboy2160 " <chefboy2160> > wrote: > > This is a Good Topic: > > > > After ariving by discrimination or any other way, > > to the point in which we understand > > that there is an I devoid of identification with any other thing... > > > > There is even the possibility of losing the I > > one finds as always being there. > > > > There is something bigger or wider than " always " , and it > > is " eternal " . > > Being from ever and for ever. And it is not the person who is that. > > > > The person is transient, the real Being is eternal. > > This Being is what one really is. > > From this Being the person arises, > > is sustained on it > > and rerturns to it. > > > > Being is Existence. > > Not existence of something, but pure existence devoid of qualities. > > > > This can be found out by experience, not by discrimination. > > Discrimination has to stop at some point. And it is in the I. > > Only when the I disappears, there is Consciousness > > of this vastness of Eternal Being. > > After this experience, there is no doubt about the nature of the I, > > self, time, space, consciousness, mind, etc. > > > > This happening occurs as a gap, a disappearance of movement, > > and cannot happen out of will. It happens on its own. > > > > We can go through understanding until this point were we recognise > > the I, > > devoid of the illusions created by the mind. > > But...there is this wonderful possibility of losing also this I... > > and remain as pure Consciousness-Existence. > > > > Then, real understanding occurs. > > > > The person is transient. Being is from ever and for ever. > > > > And that´s it. Very simple. > > The consequence...living Peace. > > > > In Joy , Cobb............. > > > And then recedes " real Being is eternal, " " pure existence devoid of > qualities, " " Consciousness of this vastness of Eternal Being, " " pure > Consciousness-Existence, " " Being is from ever and for ever, " living > Peace. Understandings abate. > > > Being Is that which always was always will be, only " i " who thought different is Seen. > > This Being Seen, all moments arise and fall, all beings arise and fall, all thoughts arise and fall as Peace that " passeth understanding " . > > Anna Peace passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 - Lewis Burgess Nisargadatta Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:24 AM Re: The 'I' Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > - > Lewis Burgess > Nisargadatta > Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:31 AM > Re: The 'I' > > > Nisargadatta , " chefboy2160 " <chefboy2160> > wrote: > > This is a Good Topic: > > > > After ariving by discrimination or any other way, > > to the point in which we understand > > that there is an I devoid of identification with any other thing... > > > > There is even the possibility of losing the I > > one finds as always being there. > > > > There is something bigger or wider than " always " , and it > > is " eternal " . > > Being from ever and for ever. And it is not the person who is that. > > > > The person is transient, the real Being is eternal. > > This Being is what one really is. > > From this Being the person arises, > > is sustained on it > > and rerturns to it. > > > > Being is Existence. > > Not existence of something, but pure existence devoid of qualities. > > > > This can be found out by experience, not by discrimination. > > Discrimination has to stop at some point. And it is in the I. > > Only when the I disappears, there is Consciousness > > of this vastness of Eternal Being. > > After this experience, there is no doubt about the nature of the I, > > self, time, space, consciousness, mind, etc. > > > > This happening occurs as a gap, a disappearance of movement, > > and cannot happen out of will. It happens on its own. > > > > We can go through understanding until this point were we recognise > > the I, > > devoid of the illusions created by the mind. > > But...there is this wonderful possibility of losing also this I... > > and remain as pure Consciousness-Existence. > > > > Then, real understanding occurs. > > > > The person is transient. Being is from ever and for ever. > > > > And that´s it. Very simple. > > The consequence...living Peace. > > > > In Joy , Cobb............. > > > And then recedes " real Being is eternal, " " pure existence devoid of > qualities, " " Consciousness of this vastness of Eternal Being, " " pure > Consciousness-Existence, " " Being is from ever and for ever, " living > Peace. Understandings abate. > > > Being Is that which always was always will be, only " i " who thought different is Seen. > > This Being Seen, all moments arise and fall, all beings arise and fall, all thoughts arise and fall as Peace that " passeth understanding " . > > Anna Peace passes. ok ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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