Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Wait a moment Gary, " nihil est in intellectu quod non prius fuerit in sensu " which means: " Nothing is in the understanding that was not earlier in the senses " . That statement stems from John Locke a leading figure of empiricism and that is also the real meaning of " Nonsense " . Hui Neng's " emptiness " or void is just a pointer to the fact that things only get meaning though a meaning giving insrance like memory or thought without that instance things are void. And here I really go with you, that this " emptiness " is the real silence: The absence of the noise and trouble thought constantly is causing. Werner Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > snip>> > > >> Nonsense ! > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > > > Werner>> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Non Sense -- That is the ultimate state When u stop perceiving > things through ur senses & mind. > > Non Sense ---->> No senses - No Mind.>> > > There is no Bodhi tree > There is no mirror bright > Since everything is empty > Where can the dust alight? > > (Hui-neng) > > All dharmas are void. > > Swami Garyananda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 - garyfalk1943 Nisargadatta Friday, May 06, 2005 7:06 AM When Murali Met Werner > snip>> >> Nonsense ! > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > Werner>> > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > Non Sense -- That is the ultimate state When u stop perceiving things through ur senses & mind. > Non Sense ---->> No senses - No Mind.>> There is no Bodhi tree There is no mirror bright Since everything is empty Where can the dust alight? (Hui-neng) All dharmas are void. Swami Garyananda > All Dharmas eventually fall into the Void, as Dharma, as every-thing-else arise in/of/as Void-a-no-thing. anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, Werner, the silence of the Stars, of Space, of Emptiness, to hear it--have you 'heard' it?-- is to Be absolutely Still in the midst of all motion, in the midst of all thoughts, in the midst of all waves and oceans....It is the Gaze unto the Void. It is ever the Unknown God. anna - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Friday, May 06, 2005 7:47 AM Re: When Murali Met Werner Wait a moment Gary, " nihil est in intellectu quod non prius fuerit in sensu " which means: " Nothing is in the understanding that was not earlier in the senses " . That statement stems from John Locke a leading figure of empiricism and that is also the real meaning of " Nonsense " . Hui Neng's " emptiness " or void is just a pointer to the fact that things only get meaning though a meaning giving insrance like memory or thought without that instance things are void. And here I really go with you, that this " emptiness " is the real silence: The absence of the noise and trouble thought constantly is causing. Werner Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > snip>> > > >> Nonsense ! > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > > > Werner>> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Non Sense -- That is the ultimate state When u stop perceiving > things through ur senses & mind. > > Non Sense ---->> No senses - No Mind.>> > > There is no Bodhi tree > There is no mirror bright > Since everything is empty > Where can the dust alight? > > (Hui-neng) > > All dharmas are void. > > Swami Garyananda > > ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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