Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real Madhava! " > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, it is > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- Knowing, > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and not > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems from > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the Self. > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the ego or > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we do not > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to others > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, forgiveness, > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence. > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the ocean > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The nature > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time the > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started to > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the Ocean! > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart but > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and the > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality rises > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind in > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as the > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing Knows It > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > /join > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real > Madhava! " > > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, > it is > > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of > > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- > Knowing, > > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and > not > > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems > from > > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the > Self. > > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the > ego or > > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the > > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we > do not > > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with > > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to > others > > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, > forgiveness, > > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence. > > > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the > ocean > > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The > nature > > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time > the > > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started > to > > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the > Ocean! > > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart > but > > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and > the > > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality > rises > > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind > in > > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as > the > > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing > Knows It > > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > > > > /join > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Thats really strange, Arvind, On his site he is such a cheerful and friendly looking guy. If I would be an old lady I would give all my possessions to him and could cuddle and hug him to death or feed him all day long with chocolate and crackers. Werner Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real > Madhava! " > > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, > it is > > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of > > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- > Knowing, > > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and > not > > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems > from > > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the > Self. > > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the > ego or > > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the > > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we > do not > > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with > > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to > others > > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, > forgiveness, > > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence. > > > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the > ocean > > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The > nature > > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time > the > > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started > to > > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the > Ocean! > > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart > but > > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and > the > > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality > rises > > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind > in > > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as > the > > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing > Knows It > > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > > > > /join > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Thats really strange, Arvind, > > On his site he is such a cheerful and friendly looking guy. If I > would be an old lady I would give all my possessions to him and could > cuddle and hug him to death or feed him all day long with chocolate > and crackers. > > Werner Hi Werner, They say, it is very HARD to find anything wrong with a Clever, Skillful politician, PR, Marketing or Sales Expert ! i. e. unless you try to look deeply and try to analyze some subtle clues or unless ...you get bitten ! Yes, and I do agree with you on both the photo and 'most of the messages', it looks almost 'too loving' to believe. Somebody ( and something ) dipped in Sugar ! I will go as far to say that Harsha's photo and his typical messages might have given even Mother Teresa run for money ! With warm regards, Arvind. PS: Now, let us wait for the EXPERT (I do think, Harsha is an expert in PR, presentation and maneuvering ). > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > > > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real > > Madhava! " > > > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, > > it is > > > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature > of > > > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- > > Knowing, > > > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self > and > > not > > > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems > > from > > > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the > > Self. > > > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the > > ego or > > > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply > the > > > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > > > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we > > do not > > > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both > with > > > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > > > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to > > others > > > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, > > forgiveness, > > > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of > nonviolence. > > > > > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from > the > > ocean > > > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The > > nature > > > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > > > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > > > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time > > the > > > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has > started > > to > > > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the > > Ocean! > > > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > > > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the > Heart > > but > > > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart > and > > the > > > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality > > rises > > > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the > mind > > in > > > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present > as > > the > > > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > > > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing > > Knows It > > > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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