Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > snip>> > Duality Rocks!! Sri Tony: > Namaste, > > Where does it go at deep sleep, pralaya and samadhi? An Indian is a > nationality or race, a Jew is a religion---what has that to do with > all this?....ONS..Tony.>> Yeah, Namaste and Shanti Aum, Look Tony, it seems like you're never gonna get it. Where does it go at(?) deep sleep, pralaya and blah blah blah? It doesn't go anywhere, Tony. Where COULD it go, after all? As far as the dead Indian thing goes, " Jew " is NOT a religion. In fact many, if not most Jews are secular in the extreme and don't believe all that gobbledeegook about Yaweh smiting the heathens with frogs and locusts, and knocking down the walls at Jericho and all that crap. Jew refers to a people, just as Indian does. Religion, for once, doesn't necessarily have to rear its ugly head. BTW, are you spending any time with your family? Don Garydas " A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Dear Friends: We will be slightly changing the format of the HS site to make room for more authors, especially brilliant, funny, and experienced ones like Baba Garydas and the Fuzz. Baba Garydas may have his own regular column if he so wishes. Currently, our people are talking to Baba Gary's people. Love to all Harsha garyfalk1943 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > snip>> > > > Duality Rocks!! > > Sri Tony: > > > Namaste, > > > > Where does it go at deep sleep, pralaya and samadhi? An Indian is a > > nationality or race, a Jew is a religion---what has that to do with > > all this?....ONS..Tony.>> > > Yeah, Namaste and Shanti Aum, > > Look Tony, it seems like you're never gonna get it. > > Where does it go at(?) deep sleep, pralaya and blah blah blah? > > It doesn't go anywhere, Tony. Where COULD it go, after all? > > As far as the dead Indian thing goes, " Jew " is NOT a religion. > > In fact many, if not most Jews are secular in the extreme and don't > believe all that gobbledeegook about Yaweh smiting the heathens with > frogs and locusts, and knocking down the walls at Jericho and all > that crap. > > Jew refers to a people, just as Indian does. > > Religion, for once, doesn't necessarily have to rear its ugly head. > > BTW, are you spending any time with your family? > > Don Garydas > > " A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real > man. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " misterenlightenment " > > snip>> > > > Duality Rocks!! > > Sri Tony: > > > Namaste, > > > > Where does it go at deep sleep, pralaya and samadhi? An Indian is a > > nationality or race, a Jew is a religion---what has that to do with > > all this?....ONS..Tony.>> > > Yeah, Namaste and Shanti Aum, > > Look Tony, it seems like you're never gonna get it. > > Where does it go at(?) deep sleep, pralaya and blah blah blah? > > It doesn't go anywhere, Tony. Where COULD it go, after all? > > As far as the dead Indian thing goes, " Jew " is NOT a religion. > > In fact many, if not most Jews are secular in the extreme and don't > believe all that gobbledeegook about Yaweh smiting the heathens with > frogs and locusts, and knocking down the walls at Jericho and all > that crap. > > Jew refers to a people, just as Indian does. > > Religion, for once, doesn't necessarily have to rear its ugly head. > > BTW, are you spending any time with your family? > > Don Garydas > > " A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real > man. " Namaste, Jews are not a people or sub race!! except for Sephardics, who have a claim to that. European Jewry is a mixture of Turkic-Finno Khazar and everyday Europeans, other Groups are obvious by their appearance such as Falashas and Indians etc. According to a research done by the Israeli newspapers and published, most Ashkenazim/European Jews are more related to turks and indo europeans than the surrounding Arab semites. You mean Jewish Heritage, which I also have as well, neither race nor religion is necessary.....ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 > Jews are not a people or sub race!! except for Sephardics, who have > a claim to that. European Jewry is a mixture of Turkic-Finno Khazar > and everyday Europeans, other Groups are obvious by their appearance > such as Falashas and Indians etc. > According to a research done by the Israeli newspapers and > published, most Ashkenazim/European Jews are more related to turks > and indo europeans than the surrounding Arab semites. > You mean Jewish Heritage, which I also have as well, neither race > nor religion is necessary.....ONS...Tony. devi: i was brought up jewish and i have a real affinity with other jewish people...even though i've embraced a more indian mind set..i keep telling my kids that their jewish but they deny say no were not... its like an extended family sort of thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: > According to a research done by the Israeli newspapers and > published, most Ashkenazim/European Jews are more related to turks > and indo europeans than the surrounding Arab semites. > You mean Jewish Heritage, which I also have as well, neither race > nor religion is necessary.....ONS...Tony. the Y chromosome is identical between father and son and can be used for lineages. i remember reading an item that said that the Jews' Y chromosome was usually non-distinguishable from the Syrians. a study of the Y claimed all humans descended from the bushmen of kalahari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: > > > According to a research done by the Israeli newspapers and > > published, most Ashkenazim/European Jews are more related to turks > > and indo europeans than the surrounding Arab semites. > > You mean Jewish Heritage, which I also have as well, neither race > > nor religion is necessary.....ONS...Tony. > > the Y chromosome is identical between father and son and can be used > for lineages. i remember reading an item that said that the Jews' Y > chromosome was usually non-distinguishable from the Syrians. > > a study of the Y claimed all humans descended from the bushmen of > kalahari. Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > a study of the Y claimed all humans descended from the bushmen of > kalahari. Yes, this was beautifully shown in a wonderful two hour documentary on PBS produced by National Geographic. The show was called, " The Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey. The show was really held one's interest, and took one all over the globe with a young geneticist from Standford Univ., who traced ancestry of all humans alive on the planet today back 50,000 years ago, and to one man living in the African Bush. It was quite amazing. He also showed that only eight to ten people who traveled over Berring Straights populated the whole of North and South America in a period of only 800 years. This may sound a bit quacky, but if you were to see the show, you would probably be convinced. Fascinating.--Durga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Durga " <durgaji108> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> > wrote: > > > > > According to a research done by the Israeli newspapers and > > > published, most Ashkenazim/European Jews are more related to turks > > > and indo europeans than the surrounding Arab semites. > > > You mean Jewish Heritage, which I also have as well, neither race > > > nor religion is necessary.....ONS...Tony. > > > > the Y chromosome is identical between father and son and can be used > > for lineages. i remember reading an item that said that the Jews' Y > > chromosome was usually non-distinguishable from the Syrians. > > > > a study of the Y claimed all humans descended from the bushmen of > > kalahari. > > Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " > <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > a study of the Y claimed all humans descended from the bushmen of > > kalahari. > > Yes, this was beautifully shown in a wonderful two hour documentary on > PBS produced by National Geographic. The show was called, " The > Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey. The show was really held one's > interest, and took one all over the globe with a young geneticist from > Standford Univ., who traced ancestry of all humans alive on the planet > today back 50,000 years ago, and to one man living in the African Bush. > > It was quite amazing. He also showed that only eight to ten people > who traveled over Berring Straights populated the whole of North and > South America in a period of only 800 years. > > This may sound a bit quacky, but if you were to see the show, you > would probably be convinced. Fascinating.--Durga Namaste, I got this; http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html This site really proves the point that the main difference between human groups is 'Cultural', which no doubt includes religions and the same. No doubt there has been some genetic or dna 'temp plates' used in engineering many thousands of years ago, showing a false trail. I read elswhere that Leakey said the Ko-San Bushmen had regressed. It seem at one time they were in Egypt and Europe. I like their saying; 'Somewhere there is a dream dreaming us'...ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: > Namaste, > > I got this; > > http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html > > This site really proves the point that the main difference between > human groups is 'Cultural', which no doubt includes religions and > the same. > genetic differences are " hardcoded " . culture is nurture. religion is a mind game. in this context Jew in a tribal rather than religious identity. > No doubt there has been some genetic or dna 'temp plates' used in > engineering many thousands of years ago, showing a false trail. > > I read elswhere that Leakey said the Ko-San Bushmen had regressed. > It seem at one time they were in Egypt and Europe. > while it is politically incorrect to say so, genetics define a lot of our hardware and IMO software. there is a strong link between mental illnesses and genetics. a study claimed that people from india, inspite of healthier diet, have 3-4 times higher risk of heart disease, and of premature heart attacks than average. > I like their saying; 'Somewhere there is a dream dreaming > us'...ONS...Tony. uh oh... you've got the toombaru disease as well. must be the dna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " hemantbhai100 " <hemantbhai100@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery> wrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > I got this; > > > > http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html > > > > This site really proves the point that the main difference between > > human groups is 'Cultural', which no doubt includes religions and > > the same. > > > > genetic differences are " hardcoded " . culture is nurture. > > religion is a mind game. > > in this context Jew in a tribal rather than religious identity. > > > No doubt there has been some genetic or dna 'temp plates' used in > > engineering many thousands of years ago, showing a false trail. > > > > I read elswhere that Leakey said the Ko-San Bushmen had regressed. > > It seem at one time they were in Egypt and Europe. > > > > while it is politically incorrect to say so, genetics define a lot of > our hardware and IMO software. > > there is a strong link between mental illnesses and genetics. > > a study claimed that people from india, inspite of healthier diet, > have 3-4 times higher risk of heart disease, and of premature heart > attacks than average. > > > I like their saying; 'Somewhere there is a dream dreaming > > us'...ONS...Tony. > > uh oh... you've got the toombaru disease as well. > > must be the dna. Namaste, No I didn't say I believed the San saying, just that I liked it. As it is somewhat advanced thinking in compared with more sophisticated educated societies...........I don't believe dna effects the mind, there is no dna in a mind or a soul, both illusory anyway hahah...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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