Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You believe that > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. That is > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that is > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of curried > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning the > realization game. > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute them....it's really childish to call names......and like i said to gary, do a reality check..... P: Read what I wrote again, darling. I didn't call you a single name. And remember, an asshole is more needed than a brain, people can't live without shitting for more than a month, while they can live for years on end without using their brain's cortex. Some even answer Emails without using it. Not your case, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You believe that > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. That is > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that is > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of curried > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning the > > realization game. > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > them....it's really childish to call names......and like i said to > gary, do a reality check..... > > P: Read what I wrote again, darling. I didn't call you a single > name. And remember, an asshole is more needed than a brain, > people can't live without shitting for more than a month, while > they can live for years on end without using their brain's cortex. > Some even answer Emails without using it. Not your case, of course. devi:ok, i read it again....and so hear.. how deluded you are by word by no words by this by that it still says look, how deluded you are... you are deluded deluded you are besides the fact that your wrong about me... pete: You believe that knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality devi: so, pete, what is spiritual? was nisargadatta a spiritual man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You believe that > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. That is > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that is > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of curried > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning the > > realization game. > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > them... It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You believe that > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. That is > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that is > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of curried > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning the > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > > them... > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > toombaru devi: there is reality... when its not colored with delusions....it is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of consciousness.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You believe > that > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. That is > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that is > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of > curried > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning the > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > > > them... > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > toombaru > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with delusions....it > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > consciousness.... The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is delusional. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You believe > > that > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. That is > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that is > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of > > curried > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning the > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with delusions....it > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > consciousness.... > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is delusional. > > > > toombaru devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define what is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope an illusion is seeing the snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > believe > > > that > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. > That is > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that > is > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of > > > curried > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning > the > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > delusions....it > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is delusional. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define what > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > an illusion is seeing the snake All " seeing " is delusional. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > > believe > > > > that > > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. > > That is > > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But that > > is > > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains of > > > > curried > > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are winning > > the > > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then refute > > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > > delusions....it > > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define what > > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. > > > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > > an illusion is seeing the snake All " seeing " is delusional. > > > toombaru devi: seeing can be called illusional by a radical...but the illusion is real seeing is illusional seeing a real live unicorn is delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > All " seeing " is delusional. > > then be useful and donate your eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > <polansky@m...> > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > > > believe > > > > > that > > > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. > > > That is > > > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But > that > > > is > > > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains > of > > > > > curried > > > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are > winning > > > the > > > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then > refute > > > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > > > delusions....it > > > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is > delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define > what > > > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. > > > > > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > > > an illusion is seeing the snake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All " seeing " is delusional. > > > > > > toombaru > > devi: seeing can be called illusional by a radical...but > > the illusion is real > > seeing is illusional > seeing a real live unicorn is delusional Seeing any thing is delusional. 'Seeing' requires a ripping of the fabric....a seer....separated from the seen....... You think you can see a river...and a wave..........don't you? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > > <polansky@m...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > > > > believe > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. > > > > That is > > > > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But > > that > > > > is > > > > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains > > of > > > > > > curried > > > > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are > > winning > > > > the > > > > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then > > refute > > > > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > > > > delusions....it > > > > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > > > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is > > delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define > > what > > > > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. > > > > > > > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > > > > an illusion is seeing the snake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All " seeing " is delusional. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > devi: seeing can be called illusional by a radical...but > > > > the illusion is real > > > > seeing is illusional > > seeing a real live unicorn is delusional > > > > Seeing any thing is delusional. > > > 'Seeing' requires a ripping of the fabric....a seer....separated from the seen....... > > > You think you can see a river...and a wave..........don't you? > > > > > > toombaru devi: in truth, no i don't see......i meaning Self.... there are instruments that actually do the seeing... when the seer and the seen become one..that is a lower samadhi, oneness is nice but thats not IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > > > <polansky@m...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > <cptc@w...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > > > > > believe > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. > > > > > That is > > > > > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains > > > of > > > > > > > curried > > > > > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are > > > winning > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then > > > refute > > > > > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > > > > > delusions....it > > > > > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > > > > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is > > > delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define > > > what > > > > > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. > > > > > > > > > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > > > > > an illusion is seeing the snake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All " seeing " is delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > devi: seeing can be called illusional by a radical...but > > > > > > the illusion is real > > > > > > seeing is illusional > > > seeing a real live unicorn is delusional > > > > > > > > Seeing any thing is delusional. > > > > > > 'Seeing' requires a ripping of the fabric....a seer....separated > from the seen....... > > > > > > You think you can see a river...and a wave..........don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > devi: in truth, no i don't see......i meaning Self.... > > there are instruments that actually do the seeing... > > when the seer and the seen become one..that is a lower samadhi, > oneness is nice but thats not IT There you go.......objectivizing reality....and then sorting and placing 'things' in jars....... There is no such thing as 'samadi'..... When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. Everyone does this...........even toombaru does it...... Seeing that is a window. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want to thank you for this: > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. It's a piercing insight But I don't quite get: > Seeing that is a window. A window to what? eddiewat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > > > > <polansky@m...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > <cptc@w...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is spirituality. > > > > > > That is > > > > > > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is eating. But > > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified grains > > > > of > > > > > > > > curried > > > > > > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are > > > > winning > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then > > > > refute > > > > > > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > > > > > > delusions....it > > > > > > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my play of > > > > > > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is > > > > delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should define > > > > what > > > > > > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that is real. > > > > > > > > > > > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > > > > > > an illusion is seeing the snake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All " seeing " is delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > devi: seeing can be called illusional by a radical...but > > > > > > > > the illusion is real > > > > > > > > seeing is illusional > > > > seeing a real live unicorn is delusional > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing any thing is delusional. > > > > > > > > > 'Seeing' requires a ripping of the fabric....a seer....separated > > from the seen....... > > > > > > > > > You think you can see a river...and a wave..........don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > devi: in truth, no i don't see......i meaning Self.... > > > > there are instruments that actually do the seeing... > > > > when the seer and the seen become one..that is a lower samadhi, > > oneness is nice but thats not IT > > > > > There you go.......objectivizing reality....and then sorting and placing 'things' in jars....... > > > There is no such thing as 'samadi'..... > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > Everyone does this...........even toombaru does it...... > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > toombaru devi: you can see how the illusion works, i'm impressed....but still, tell me what is the Supreme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > <polansky@m...> wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > <polansky@m...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " > > > > > <polansky@m...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > <cptc@w...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > P: LOL! That shows how deluded you are by words. You > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > knowing the meaning of Sanskrit words is > spirituality. > > > > > > > That is > > > > > > > > > > > > no more spiritual, than chewing a menu is > eating. But > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > all you do, move around those ancient petrified > grains > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > curried > > > > > > > > > > > > rise on the play board, and kid yourself you are > > > > > winning > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > realization game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: look asshole, if you don't like my ideas then > > > > > refute > > > > > > > > > > > them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is impossible to refute ideas...that are delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (all ideas on matters spiritual are delusional) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: there is reality... when its not colored with > > > > > > > delusions....it > > > > > > > > > is called illusion....your play of consciousness, my > play of > > > > > > > > > consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The division of consciousness into mine and thine....is > > > > > delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devi: no your statement is delusional....maybe i should > define > > > > > what > > > > > > > is the difference between delusion and the illusion that > is real. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a delusion is seeing the snake in the rope > > > > > > > an illusion is seeing the snake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All " seeing " is delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > devi: seeing can be called illusional by a radical...but > > > > > > > > > > the illusion is real > > > > > > > > > > seeing is illusional > > > > > seeing a real live unicorn is delusional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing any thing is delusional. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Seeing' requires a ripping of the fabric....a seer....separated > > > from the seen....... > > > > > > > > > > > > You think you can see a river...and a wave..........don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > devi: in truth, no i don't see......i meaning Self.... > > > > > > there are instruments that actually do the seeing... > > > > > > when the seer and the seen become one..that is a lower samadhi, > > > oneness is nice but thats not IT > > > > > > > > > > There you go.......objectivizing reality....and then sorting and > placing 'things' in jars....... > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'samadi'..... > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > > > > > Everyone does this...........even toombaru does it...... > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > devi: you can see how the illusion works, i'm impressed....but still, > tell me what is the Supreme? A member of a 1960's singing group. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want to > thank you for this: > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > A window to what? > > > > eddiewat In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream occurs.....an ancient memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet unspeakable openess....... You know what I mean........................Don't You? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want to > > thank you for this: > > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > A window to what? > > > > > > > > eddiewat > > > In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream occurs.....an ancient > memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of > Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet unspeakable openess....... > > > > You know what I mean........................Don't You? > > > > toombaru Sure do. But aren't those nouns, however transparent? Thanks for your sparkling clarity, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wedwardwatkins " > > <wedwardwatkins> wrote: > > > Been checking this space out for a little while, and now want to > > > thank you for this: > > > > > > > > > > When you change an adjective into a noun.....All is lost. > > > > > > > > > It's a piercing insight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I don't quite get: > > > > > > > > > > Seeing that is a window. > > > > > > > > > A window to what? > > > > > > > > > > > > eddiewat > > > > > > In a few....it seems that a break in the thought stream > occurs.....an ancient > > memory opens a window .............Home......perfume of > > Heaven....Dulcinea..........Elesian Fields.........sweet > unspeakable openess....... > > > > > > > > You know what I mean........................Don't You? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Sure do. But aren't those nouns, however transparent? > > > Thanks for your sparkling clarity, btw. only adjectives spoken here.................:-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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