Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 The not-two, no doer, of Advaita tells us that the mind is what it thinks. The mind is just thoughts. Another word for thoughts is language. The mind is thus not only what it thinks but also the language it is, speaks, understands. Learn to speak the language of LOVE and you will be this LOVE. With this language of LOVE there are no dualities. Words are used that are different but with the awareness that all words are the Same, LOVE. This language of LOVE is that simple – words appear different but they are the same LOVE. When you learn this language of LOVE – non-duality, Advaita – something mind-shattering happens: dualities become absurd, a joke. And then some. When you use dualistic languages with the background Awareness that all words are the same LOVE then you break out of the prison dualism shackles language and go beyond dualities. The further language goes beyond dualities the more absurd, comical they, dualities, get. And the more you think about this absurdity the more obviously absurd language gets when it is limited to dualities. Why should language be limited to dualities, why not three-ality or four-ality or ten-alities? Fuck make it a billion- alities and die laughing. To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and more absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another word for LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE that will take you to a JOY and Laughter – an Ecstasy -- that is far, far beyond your wildest and wackiest of dreams. the supreme JOKE, gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and more > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another word for > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its self. You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then prescribe a course of action that will somehow improve it. You are practicing medicine in the morgue. toombaru that will take you > to a JOY and Laughter – an Ecstasy -- that is far, far beyond your > wildest and wackiest of dreams. > > the supreme JOKE, gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and more > > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another word for > > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE > > > > This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its self. > > You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then prescribe a course of action that > will somehow improve it. > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ You are offering something that can't be given....to something that can't take it. > toombaru > that will take you > > to a JOY and Laughter – an Ecstasy -- that is far, far beyond your > > wildest and wackiest of dreams. > > > > the supreme JOKE, gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and more > > > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another word for > > > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE > > >> > > > > > This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its self. > > > > You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then prescribe a course of action that > > will somehow improve it. > > > > > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > >> You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ > > > > You are offering something that can't be given....to something that can't take it. > ====================================== > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. gp I practice medicine in a morgue for over 25 years. They called it a hospital. So I know what you are talking about. " You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ " gp: You are perfectly right – there is no sugar water, there is no cure because there is no cancer – only the mind, and it is what it thinks. " You are offering something that can't be given....to something that can't take it. " gp: perfectly right, and I echo: " The seeker is he who is in search of himself. " The trouble, joke, is that you can't find yourself because there is no doer called yourself that you can find. YOU cannot even laugh at yourself so just cry, because it makes no difference. It is all just a play of words, maya – the Supreme Comedy in which everyting adds up to the Nothing called dreamless-sleep. gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and > more > > > > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another > word for > > > > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE > > > > >> > > > > > > > This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its > self. > > > > > > You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then prescribe > a course of action that > > > will somehow improve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > > > >> You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ > > > > > > > > You are offering something that can't be given....to something that > can't take it. > > ====================================== > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > gp I practice medicine in a morgue for over 25 years. They called it > a hospital. So I know what you are talking about. > > " You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ " > > gp: You are perfectly right – there is no sugar water, there is no > cure because there is no cancer – only the mind, and it is what it > thinks. > > " You are offering something that can't be given....to something that > can't take > it. " > > gp: perfectly right, and I echo: " The seeker is he who is in search > of himself. " > > The trouble, joke, is that you can't find yourself because there is > no doer called yourself that you can find. YOU cannot even laugh at > yourself so just cry, because it makes no difference. > > It is all just a play of words, maya – the Supreme Comedy in which > everyting adds up to the Nothing called dreamless-sleep. > > gp How does the 'love' you refer to factor into this 'Nothing'? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and > > more > > > > > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another > > word for > > > > > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its > > self. > > > > > > > > You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then prescribe > > a course of action that > > > > will somehow improve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > > > > > >> You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ > > > > > > > > > > > > You are offering something that can't be given....to something that > > can't take it. > > > ====================================== > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > gp I practice medicine in a morgue for over 25 years. They called it > > a hospital. So I know what you are talking about. > > > > " You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ " > > > > gp: You are perfectly right – there is no sugar water, there is no > > cure because there is no cancer – only the mind, and it is what it > > thinks. > > > > " You are offering something that can't be given....to something that > > can't take > > it. " > > > > gp: perfectly right, and I echo: " The seeker is he who is in search > > of himself. " > > > > The trouble, joke, is that you can't find yourself because there is > > no doer called yourself that you can find. YOU cannot even laugh at > > yourself so just cry, because it makes no difference. > > > > It is all just a play of words, maya – the Supreme Comedy in which > > everyting adds up to the Nothing called dreamless-sleep. > > > > gp > > > > > > How does the 'love' you refer to factor into this 'Nothing'? > ================================ > > Love = Samadhi = Dreamless-sleep = beyond name and form = Nothing. What is beyond the mind and its thoughts is this Nothing = LOVE = Samadhi gp ======================== > > toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more > and > > > more > > > > > > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another > > > word for > > > > > > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its > > > self. > > > > > > > > > > You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then > prescribe > > > a course of action that > > > > > will somehow improve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > > > > > > > >> You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are offering something that can't be given....to something > that > > > can't take it. > > > > ====================================== > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > > gp I practice medicine in a morgue for over 25 years. They called > it > > > a hospital. So I know what you are talking about. > > > > > > " You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ " > > > > > > gp: You are perfectly right – there is no sugar water, there is > no > > > cure because there is no cancer – only the mind, and it is what > it > > > thinks. > > > > > > " You are offering something that can't be given....to something > that > > > can't take > > > it. " > > > > > > gp: perfectly right, and I echo: " The seeker is he who is in > search > > > of himself. " > > > > > > The trouble, joke, is that you can't find yourself because there > is > > > no doer called yourself that you can find. YOU cannot even laugh > at > > > yourself so just cry, because it makes no difference. > > > > > > It is all just a play of words, maya – the Supreme Comedy in > which > > > everyting adds up to the Nothing called dreamless-sleep. > > > > > > gp > > > > > > > > > > > > How does the 'love' you refer to factor into this 'Nothing'? > > ================================ > > > > > Love = Samadhi = Dreamless-sleep = beyond name and form = Nothing. > What is beyond the mind and its thoughts is this Nothing = LOVE = > Samadhi > > gp > ======================== > > > > toombaru I beileve that......I have never heard of a cynical mystic. but I wonder.....I wonder......if even that substrate of 'love' is only a one more delusional grasping by the desperate mind........ sometimes.......when I wrestle with my grandchildren....or hug my son.............or wake to my wife .......softy rubbing my back...or hold a stranger's hand.....sometimes when I see the baby quail in Strawberry Canyon.......the most incredible joy........softens all the edges........and every thing seems so perfect... it all seems to be making love........... I can feel it right now. Thank you for coming here..... I like your company. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 - Gene Polotas Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:36 PM Re: the language called LOVE Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To enjoy all the LOVE and laughter dualism needs to be more and > > more > > > > > absurd, all " you " (the imaginary-doer, that is just another > > word for > > > > > LOVE) have to do is learn this language of LOVE > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This illusion of separateness can 'do' nothing to improve its > > self. > > > > > > > > You tell us something is unreal...imaginary....and then prescribe > > a course of action that > > > > will somehow improve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > > > > > >> You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ > > > > > > > > > > > > You are offering something that can't be given....to something that > > can't take it. > > > ====================================== > > > You are practicing medicine in the morgue. > > gp I practice medicine in a morgue for over 25 years. They called it > > a hospital. So I know what you are talking about. > > > > " You are peddling sugar water as a cure for cancer........ " > > > > gp: You are perfectly right - there is no sugar water, there is no > > cure because there is no cancer - only the mind, and it is what it > > thinks. > > > > " You are offering something that can't be given....to something that > > can't take > > it. " > > > > gp: perfectly right, and I echo: " The seeker is he who is in search > > of himself. " > > > > The trouble, joke, is that you can't find yourself because there is > > no doer called yourself that you can find. YOU cannot even laugh at > > yourself so just cry, because it makes no difference. > > > > It is all just a play of words, maya - the Supreme Comedy in which > > everyting adds up to the Nothing called dreamless-sleep. > > > > gp > > > > > > How does the 'love' you refer to factor into this 'Nothing'? > ================================ > > Love = Samadhi = Dreamless-sleep = beyond name and form = Nothing. What is beyond the mind and its thoughts is this Nothing = LOVE = Samadhi gp ======================== > > toombaru where can I hide that you will not find me? fierce love gentle love-- Shiva see what lies in your wake-- my wasteland of corpses I am reduced to a handful of ashes.. a plume of smoke, a phoenix rising-- only to die once again and Breathe again-- in abeyance-- in terror. Anna ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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